Tom Barnett Aligning with Nature to Heal & Thrive

[Speaker 2] (0:00 - 0:08) You are now listening to the Hear for the Truth podcast, hosted by Joel Rafiti and Erasmus Stelionesis. [Speaker 3] (0:13 - 0:41) Welcome back, everybody. This is episode 18. We have a really amazing guest for you. But first, I want to give a shout out to our three patrons, our conspiracy gangsters, Erasmus, Tina Rafiti, Sophie Fletcher, and Nancy Hamper, right? Bro, is that your wife? Oh, Sophie? Yeah, that's my wife. Wait, is Tina your mom? All right, listen, we got the support of the fam. That's where it starts. [Speaker 2] (0:41 - 0:43) Lucky our loved ones love us. Let's see. [Speaker 3] (0:43 - 0:49) Anyway, so happy to have Tom Barnett here. Really excited. I'm going to pass it over to Joel. He's going to share a little bit about Tom. [Speaker 2] (0:49 - 1:22) Yeah, absolutely. Tom's someone who's been prominent in the Australian freedom, health, and truth community for a while now. You may have seen him floating around. Tom is a holistic health practitioner and mindset coach covering diverse topics from law, culture, and sociology to human health and spirituality. Many people from all walks of life have found value in Tom's relaxed and calm demeanor, while getting right to the point providing valuable, stable content that will remain applicable for life. Tom, thanks for being here, man. We really appreciate it. [Speaker 1] (1:22 - 1:25) Yeah, thanks, boys. Good to be here. I love the intro. [Speaker 3] (1:26 - 2:00) You know what? I just want to jump into something. Just because I first came to know you because of a video that went viral that was you talking about how you can't catch a virus. And we seem to be in a time where, obviously, crazy time with coronavirus and everything. And there's this argument over people who are getting the vaccine, people who aren't getting the vaccine, testing, new variants, et cetera, et cetera. So it's like, why don't we start with that video that started it all? Can you talk to us about it? And can you tell us about that? Well, you can't catch a virus. How? Why? I'd love for you to share that with our guests. I mean, with our audience. [Speaker 1] (2:01 - 3:47) Yeah. Well, look, that video was because I didn't think that people would buy into that sort of story. I didn't think that people would believe that people fallen over in the street that just happened to be filmed in China and all the stuff that didn't make any sense. I didn't think that they would buy into that and then that it would come to Australia. But then it did. So then because my friends weren't acting very intelligently, I thought I'd make a video. And I thought I'd just put a bit of humor in there, make it a bit fun. So it wasn't just like me paying them out. And then it turns out that everyone else saw that video as well. And then that just got me an audience that I hadn't previously been exposed to. So that was good. The funny thing is, though, that we're however many months on now, 18 months or something on and people are still, I don't know. It's funny, though, because so many people have woken up since then, which is amazing. But it's just I can't believe that not only did people think that people falling over in the street was real in China, but now they keep despite all the evidence to the contrary. And even though other countries as well have recognized that no one's ever isolated some SARS-CoV-2 strain of some virus that apparently exists, that they're still allowing things to be locked down and still wearing masks out of fear and still just buying into the narrative. So maybe it's time for another video. I don't know. But at the same time, it's good that so many people are waking up every day more and more. And that's a real positive. That's something that I take a lot of solace in. I really enjoy that. But it is still strange to me that the narrative has held up that long when it was so flimsy to begin with. But I guess that's the nature of the world. So it is what it is. [Speaker 3] (3:47 - 4:08) So how did you come to that conclusion? Obviously, there's people like Dr. Andrew Kaufman, Stefan Lonka, Thomas Cowen, people in the German medicine community, etc. that have different views of viruses, what they are and what impact they have on the body. So I'd love to know a little bit more of that backstory that then led you into creating that video and education. [Speaker 1] (4:09 - 9:14) So I studied traditional science and medicine when I was started from when I was young. Actually, I had a fascination with the body and science in general. And I was good academically. So from school, I naturally gravitated towards studying science at college. Before going to college, though, I started going to universities when I was about 15 or 16, because my parents worked at a university and I would go there after school. I'd take books out of the library and sit in the library and study physics and chemistry and biology. And then I would also attend some of the lectures because I don't think people realize that you don't have to be enrolled in a college to attend the classes. You can just go and attend the classes. So I do that as well. And I thought vaccines were great. I thought that viruses you could catch. I thought bacteria was bad. I thought fungal infections would kill you. And then in my early 20s, because I was an athlete and doing too many things, I was very out of balance. I became chronically ill, had chronic fatigue. That was partly due to mercury toxicity or an overexposure that got to a saturation point. And just stressing my body and mind too much was out of balance. So I ended up with what's collectively termed chronic fatigue syndrome and lasted many, many years. I ran out of all the savings that I'd made seeing doctors and specialists and naturopaths and natural healers and nothing really did anything. And then through Paul Cech's work, who was the first guy that I found gave real value to me. I'm not saying nobody else gives value. I'm just saying for me at that point in my life, he was the first that made some sense about bringing things into balance mentally, emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually. And to start to get a feel for those aspects, which I previously had not, at least I had not consciously gone down those roads. So I then started finding out about Rudolf Steiner's work. And then I started finding out about Antoine Beauchamp's work. And then I'm going, these guys say that germ theory is a bit of BS. So I thought, well, this is interesting because I'm getting like 13 colds a year. That's more than one a month on average. And I've got like cold sores and I've got other viral activity going on. Surely I'm catching these off people on the bus because I'm immunocompromised, right? My immune system is down because I over trained or flattened myself and I'm getting sick often. So therefore, my immune system is not working well. That's according to my scientific study. And so then I'm thinking, well, this is kind of starting to make a lot of sense. Like up here, I'm going, that actually makes sense. This is making, but these people aren't idiots. These people are really smart guys. And I'm thinking, is what I've been buying into, is that all pharmaceutical stuff? Because I know they're not really that, as I got more into natural health, I'm thinking, no, that pharmaceutical thing has got a lot that needs to be questioned. So then I'm thinking, well, maybe everything I've learned about science and the way medicine works is perhaps along those lines too. But because I really need to, I need experiential evidence. So I read it and it made a lot of sense to my brain, but I still needed to figure that out for myself. And look, I was in a stage where I didn't really care if I lived or died. You know, I was not functioning well, didn't really see any way out of it because everybody who was supposedly an expert was leaving me high and dry and draining my money until I had none. So then I was like, well, you know, what difference does it make now? So I'm going to test it. So then I was hanging around and exposing myself to people who had various viral, current viral infections. And I couldn't infect myself. I exposed myself to blood, urine, sexual fluids from females, spit, mucus. And I just couldn't infect myself. And I was like, okay, well, hey, I just, this is it. This is enough evidence for me. It was enough for me. Sorry, it wasn't enough for me just to have studied the work of people who obviously didn't have an agenda. They weren't backed by or backing a pharmaceutical agenda. So that to me makes more sense straight away. That's more truthful to me. But then I still need to find it out because I was sick of people who'd read a few books thinking that they know how the body works, but clearly had not experienced anything themselves or necessarily healed anyone from a chronic illness. So I was all about experience at that point because the whole I know stuff, I've got a high IQ, I've got a PhDs on my physics and biology test. That meant nothing to me at that stage. From people with a wall full of certificates, that meant nothing at this point. So it was all about that. And I proved it to myself at that point. And then from then working from that focal point or that filter, I went ahead and did a lot more experiments and looked at how animals operate with dogs and horses and cats. And then as I moved into becoming a holistic health practitioner, I was working with that model with patients too and having a lot of success. And that was, for me, I haven't looked back since then. [Speaker 3] (9:16 - 9:39) It's amazing. Yeah. Did you get a lot of support? Did you get a lot of backlash when that video came out? Like what was the, not that you like measured it, or maybe you did measure it. I don't know. You do a lot of experimentation. No, I didn't know. But like, were there people that were really intrigued when that video went viral? Were they like, yo, Tom, you're fucking crazy. What are you doing? Or was it more like, huh, you're a smart guy. Let's see what you have to say. [Speaker 1] (9:39 - 12:01) I didn't do it. Well, it was both, obviously. You'll always get something. If something's polarizing, you'll have both. You'll have people that love you and people that want to kill you. And the mainstream media that picks up things like that, which I didn't see, I only found out in an interview about a month ago what the mainstream media said about me, because I don't look at mainstream media. I don't pay attention to it. I don't even, I posted that video on Facebook and YouTube, but I don't use it. So I didn't really, well, I didn't at that stage use it. So I didn't really know what people were saying. I was just hearing it secondhand through other people. And in the street, which is the real world, I had people coming up to me all the time, thanking me for making the video. Not one person ever came up to me and said, I hate you. You're wrong. You're whatever. I'm sure there was a ton of online backlash. And yeah, the mainstream media would have picked it up to try to run, to slander me because I don't want that kind of story. Getting out that you can't catch their golden boy virus is the reason that they're trying to pull all their stunts. But the funny thing is, is in an interview recently, a guy pulled up the mainstream news article and he read it to me. And I was thinking, what the hell is this? Because what they did was they said, this guy claims you can't catch a virus and viruses can only be caught if they're injected into your body. And that this happens in that. I'm like, you've just summarized the key points in my video and put it out there for the mainstream to hear. And it's funny because our minds don't generally register the negatives. So if we're trying to make affirmations to ourself, like we go, all right, I'm going to get fit. It's like, okay, I'm going to get up. Your brain doesn't register not. It just registers I'm fat idiot. I'm fat idiot. That's what will happen if you affirm the negative to yourself. You've got to affirm the positive. So when they say stuff like this failed politician, this idiot, this conspiracy theorist, Tom Barnett says you can't catch a virus. You can only catch it if it's injected. The brain, actually, the unconscious doesn't register all of those slander. It just registers the key points. And I'm like, are you guys on our side or what? You actually just made my video the key points. You've summarized them for the mainstream. I was like, I couldn't believe it. So realistically, I don't think anything worked against me. I think it was all positive. [Speaker 3] (12:02 - 12:28) Yeah. I was going to say, you just make up a good point, because even with censorship, I always feel like it ends up biting them in the ass because they censor all this stuff. And everyone's like, oh, it's getting censored. And then what is behind the veil? I want to go see that. And then more and more people wake up. So it's an interesting strategy, the tactic that these, you know, these, whatever you want to call them, they use the elite, et cetera, the mainstream media, the people pulling the strings. I just find that interesting. [Speaker 1] (12:29 - 13:51) Yeah, totally. And also because the old expression is that any marketing or what is it? Any attention is good marketing, whether it's good or bad. You know, if you're a public figure, which I'm not, but you know, if you're an actor or a politician, whether you get a good news article or a bad news article, it doesn't matter because it's all marketing and exposure. So they say it all is good. And then it just makes me wonder whether either partly they're on our side and they're just trying to let idiots weed themselves out or it's just maybe because of universal law, they have to tell the truth in one way or another. So rather than them tell the truth, they'll expose somebody who is telling the truth and make them sound like an idiot, but they're still telling the truth. So under universal law, they have exposed truth to the masses rather than hiding it because they don't have to go, hey, by the way, we're doing this angle and he's really right, but we're just trying to make it sound like it's not. They don't have to do that under natural universal law. They only have to expose the truth and allow the individual to recognize it for themselves. I mean, your podcast is about here for truth. So I really think that it's that element that they want the truth out there because they know that if they censor it completely, they're in deep shit with a much higher force of creation than them. So then they do leak things like this, but they're under no obligation to tell people what they're actually doing. [Speaker 2] (13:52 - 14:31) Yeah. Well, I mean, at the same time, confusion seems to be the basis of the psychological warfare at the moment, right? We can see how many times they've back-flipped and forth on a million things, right? Masks don't work. Masks do work. PCR test doesn't work. PCR test does work. And for someone trying to discern truth that isn't really looking at alternate sources, you'd just be in absolute whirlwind all together with this stuff and almost at the point where it's like, okay, someone just tell me what to do because I can't figure it out myself. But I mean, trying to understand the psychology of the propaganda that's spewed at us, that's another ballgame all together, man. It's a tough one to decipher. [Speaker 1] (14:33 - 15:13) Yeah. Well, it's not for people like us, but for the average individual who's new to things, then yeah, I get that that would be confusing. I mean, we probably all went through a period where we'd hear something and for the first time, we're like, oh, I don't know about that. That sounds kind of crazy. And you know what? I really expect that that video that I did, some people would have heard it and brushed it off and 10 years down the track, they'll go, oh, I remember this video that guy made. And yeah, that resonates with me now. But until that point, everyone wakes up at their own time and that's all fine too, you know? I don't expect that. I always expect that there's a certain number of people at any moment that are designed to get to that point and they'll always be the masses. So then that's cool. [Speaker 2] (15:14 - 15:44) Well, it's such a mind-shattering paradigm for someone to contemplate that a virus might not actually exist and I might not be in a constant state of fear and threat by simply walking and contributing to society in some kind of normal way. But it's such an empowering thing at the same time. And it's almost like, I guess, people are comfortable with that fear, right? They don't want it taken from them. It's almost like a blanket in some kind of way from where I'm looking anyway. [Speaker 1] (15:45 - 16:51) It's a place of reference, yeah. Without it, they don't know necessarily who they are. They don't like the governments, their mommy and their daddy. That's what it's like for people who live in fear. They are not ready to take responsibility for themselves yet. That's too scary. So like anyone growing up, mommy and daddy tell you that it's wrong to touch your penis. Then you'll grow up thinking that that's an evil thing and it's wrong, you know? And then you'll have problems when you're older. But while you're under that parental mind, well, then that's your safety net. So thinking that gives you a sense of, I'm okay in the world. I'll be safe if I follow those rules or I think that. And then once you outgrow the parental mind, you've got the tribal mind. And the tribal mind will always bring you back into how you don't step outside of there. Don't wear those colors. That's not the tribal colors. You do this. And it's scary to step out of that. But then you step out of that and then you're in a larger mind and another larger mind. So there's always parameters that we will need to grow beyond for our whole life, really, until we completely transcend that ego mind and we're into a more of a enlightened state. [Speaker 2] (16:52 - 16:52) Yeah. [Speaker 3] (16:53 - 17:58) You know, we're 17 months in, I think, to this whole charade. Well, I mean, it depends on when you say the charade started. It's been going on. But in terms of like COVID 1984, I saw a recent video you did on Instagram. It was around like not just why try to keep this broken system going. And so when you think about where we're at right now, what are the solutions? Like what is your advice to people to focus on? Because we can get caught up in this divide and conquer thing. Like, okay, I'm unvaccinated. Like all you vaccinated people are doing this, that, and the other. And then you have to vaccinate people doing the same thing. Like what can an individual focus on? Like, what do you think is the solution? Does Babylon need to completely fall and there to be chaos? And then something like the Phoenix rising from the ashes, something new coming? Or will it be a slower transition? Like, what do you think is happening, will happen? What are the solutions that people can focus on? [Speaker 1] (18:00 - 20:35) I'm not sure that there's a... I don't even know that they know what their end game is. I think that they know what they want, but how it happens, I'm not sure. So will it be a complete fall and then a rising from the ashes? Don't know. That's prophesied in many ways. Will it be a gradual? Well, will it fizzle out and be something that they hadn't even thought of yet? Because realistically, it's us. We're the ones that determine what happens. We walk into it or we create it or both. So as far as your question goes, is what do we do for me? And it's not necessarily the answer. It's just my answer for myself. It's creating. And what am I creating every day? And that's really all it comes down to. And if I don't even know what I'm creating, at least if I'm being creative, I feel I'm on the right track. As far as things falling, I think it will. I think there will be a lot of deaths, but at the same time, I mean, that's always happened as well. And it's always the free will of the individual to choose that because no one can ever say they've never heard that vaccines aren't good, that 5G is not good, that junk food's not good, that cigarettes aren't good, that plastic's in there, like burning plastic or using chemicals. No one's ever heard or no one can say that they've never heard, I should say, that those things aren't good, but they willingly choose it anyway. And that's fine. That's absolutely fine. So we will all choose what happens. And maybe it's an individual element. But maybe we have to, for some people, it'll be a complete death, not a physical death, but a complete dissolution of the reality that they perceive and then arising from the ashes of a new perception. It doesn't necessarily have to be the literal sense of the system in the Babylonian city collapsing and then something new rising. That's one way of interpreting that. But the other might be on an individual soul level of a collapse of the sense of self and who we are and then arising of something else, which no one would see to the naked eye. That doesn't look like a collapse and arise. That just looks like, I don't know what, did you cut your hair or something? I don't know. You know, it's just, you can't really pick it. It's an internal aspect. So the answer, I'm not really sure. But for me, I'm quite confident in, I never think that I absolutely know, but I just trust my feelings. And I feel that I am moving in the right direction as far as what I'm creating. And as long as I'm doing that and I'm grounded the whole time and I'm connected to my higher self and to spirit, then I feel like whatever happens will be the right thing. [Speaker 2] (20:36 - 21:55) Absolutely, man. I think we've all been disillusioned in some way, shape or form over the last couple of years. And obviously freedom is not separate from responsibility, right? And what we have now is, as you said, it's a choice. We do have the opportunity to take more responsibility and in turn have more freedom. And that choice is being presented to every individual on some level at the moment. Because prior to this whole charade, there wasn't really that window, right? It wasn't open as much. But now it's almost like it's wide open and everyone's like, okay, where do I stand? What do I really want to do? What is my true self? What is the most authentic thing for me? And there's actually prime fertile ground for me to take steps towards growing that plant at this point in time. And as you said, man, I love your perspective on creativity because imagination is first and foremost. And imagination allows us to create beyond these structures and to think outside these structures. And that's really the essence of who we are. It's what that calling is for each unique individual. And I just implore and urge people more than ever to tap into that and really find out what it is that I want to fucking feel right now as a human being. [Speaker 1] (21:57 - 23:06) Totally. And to have the experiences too. We spoke about that on that call last night. It's to have the experience because so many people are shying away from it. It's like this box that they're in. This is my safety ground. And don't let me at the sun. That'll burn me. Or don't let those birds come near me. They'll poo on me or they'll peck me or something. It's like get out and have the experience. If you shy away from that, like literally if you're afraid to leave, you're already dead. What are you scared of? People are afraid of death. And it's like, you're dead anyway. You're not living if you're afraid of getting out and being alive. So just do it. There's an old expression that, don't know what culture it comes from, but it says it's far better to live just one day as a tiger than a hundred years as a sheep or something. Not that being a sheep would be bad, but it's just that whole element of like, just choose to live. If you're alive in the moment, it's infinite. That moment is infinite. As soon as you start going forward and back, and what if that happens? And no, but that might happen again. You're just, you're not alive. So you may as well live an infinite life in a moment than trying to just eke your way through avoiding death for a hundred years. It's like, what good is that? [Speaker 3] (23:06 - 23:44) Yeah. There's one of my favorite quotes from a movie. The Shawshank Redemption is simple. Get busy living or get busy dying. I've done my best to follow that and honor that, because I feel you, man. It's amazing the fear that's out there right now. And it's just incredible. Like you said, don't go outside. The sun's going to burn you. Don't breathe fresh air. Don't brush up against someone. I mean, I choose not to believe that human beings are walking carriers of disease ready to infect me at every moment. I just don't buy into that paradigm. Also, I don't believe it's based in real science. [Speaker 2] (23:45 - 24:40) So yeah. Well, it's all really based in survival mechanisms that we picked up when we thought safety was our only option as a kid, right? Or as a child. And it's kind of for the majority of us, that's still where we're stuck. It's in this fear paradigm. And what we don't realize that now, we actually can have the choice to live and not only live just to be safe within where we're comfortable. And I guess that's what we're witnessing right now. Because as everyone goes through this process and steps out of these paradigms, and as a result is going to confront authority, what's that going to do in turn is bring up everything from the childhood, right? Those inner childhood traumas. And there's opportunity there as well to heal that and to expand upon that and in turn grow. What are your thoughts on that, Tom, in general, I guess, in terms of inner child healing and how that correlates to what we're experiencing now? [Speaker 1] (24:41 - 26:01) I think it's exactly what the purpose of this is. Because the earthly events, well, the societal events are really mirroring earthly changes. So when the earth changes through its ages and it changes in, just to use a generic term, its frequency, well, then society reflects that. And we're seeing a lot of unrest and a lot of unsurety. And it's not a settled or grounded time in society in general. Society in general is very disconnected and disconcerted. And I feel that that's indicative of a change. That's indicative of the earth going through a frequency shift itself. And so what will happen is people are invited, I guess, to match that. And if they don't match that, they'll feel ungrounded. And if they can ground, that will match that and they'll feel, hey, this is actually great. This is exciting. This is actually moving into a new place. And so that new place obviously is within us. I mean, the trees will look the same. The sky look the same. The earth will look the same. But again, like I said earlier, these are internal and subtle changes. And when we match those, we'll be in heaven. So it's thick. And if we don't match those, we'll be in hell. And that's the invitation really. And like I say, I mean, it's just, that's the lesson for people because you have to choose that. There's no such thing as a free ride.