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[Speaker 3] (0:00 - 1:01)
You are now listening to the Year for the Truth podcast, hosted by Joel Rafiti and Yerasimos. Amanda Vollmer is a renowned health expert and best-selling author with an impressive breadth of knowledge on natural healing and holistic wellness practices. With over 20 years of experience in the field, she is a speaker and educator who has inspired countless individuals to take control of their health and live vibrant, thriving lives.
Her passion for natural healing and alternative medicine was sparked at an early age and she has dedicated her life to studying and sharing her knowledge with others. Her deep understanding of the human body and its innate ability to heal itself has led her to develop a range of powerful natural remedies that have helped thousands of people overcome chronic illness and achieve optimal health. She teaches the truth about this world, gentle or blunt, and her breadth of knowledge delves into politics, law, physics, philosophy, corrected history, and cosmology.
Amanda, welcome to Year for the Truth.
[Speaker 1] (1:02 - 1:07)
Hey, thanks, Joel. Thanks, Yerasimos. It's just, this has been long overdue, I think.
[Speaker 2] (1:07 - 1:08)
I know.
[Speaker 1] (1:08 - 1:11)
Because we've known each other for a long time, so we're going to get into it.
[Speaker 2] (1:11 - 1:19)
I think it's perfect timing, actually, and I'm excited, you know. I love you. I have so much fun hanging out with you and just looking forward to this chat.
Yeah, totally.
[Speaker 1] (1:19 - 1:26)
We have inappropriate humor together, generally, so this is going to be the PG-13 version.
[Speaker 2] (1:26 - 1:27)
I think so. I think so.
[Speaker 1] (1:28 - 1:29)
What did you say, Joel?
[Speaker 3] (1:30 - 1:35)
I was going to mention, to kick things off, I guess you want to share with the audience with that lovely concoction that you're drinking right now.
[Speaker 1] (1:37 - 1:38)
This?
[Speaker 3] (1:38 - 1:38)
Yeah.
[Speaker 1] (1:38 - 2:39)
Well, every morning I drink my own urine because it's a 5,000-year-old ancient practice of health and your waters are not waste, they're excess, and they are structured water. They have stem cells. You know, the majority of the substance is 97% structured water, 4% urea, which is healing, and the rest are thousands of different micromolecules of minerals and vitamins and metabolites and hormones and information that balances your system.
So that's my morning brew. I don't do coffee. I do urine, and I've added a little mixer of watermelon juice in mine because I was a little bit stronger this morning.
I got a little bit dehydrated yesterday. So you can really learn about your body when you pay attention to its waters and what even it smells like and tastes like and all those things because it'll give you information in the moment about what you're eating, if it's right for you, you know, how you're digesting, and you just get so much information back in your body. So there it is.
[Speaker 3] (2:39 - 2:41)
So that's this morning's batch?
[Speaker 1] (2:42 - 2:44)
Yeah, this is this morning's batch.
[Speaker 2] (2:44 - 2:49)
Thanks for letting us know that you put watermelon in it. For a second, I was going to be like, did you eat beets last night or something?
[Speaker 1] (2:49 - 2:53)
Yeah, that's scary when that happens. You're like, oh my God, take me to the hospital.
[Speaker 2] (2:53 - 3:04)
Especially if you forget that you ate beets. Like I'll have that like... You always do.
Like 0.1 seconds of like peeing and then being like, oh, okay, I had beets yesterday.
[Speaker 1] (3:05 - 4:20)
Yeah, we're good. Yeah. No, I mean, even in a woman in her menses, she can ingest it.
It's literally it's medicine. So I think we just have to get over our stigma and all of the negative propaganda. I mean, how many movies have we watched where they make fun of these sorts of things or, you know, like old urine stained houses.
That's pretty gross, right? Like, okay, so many urinates themselves repeatedly. Okay, there's a problem.
We're not talking about the gross side of it. We're talking about how it's used respectfully and honorably for your own health, right? And of course, you're not going to be using it like that way.
But ultimately, if you understand how to age it and get stem cells out of it, you can retain your youth, even your cellular youth, as far as we're talking like telomeres, you know, your telomeres, your length. And in the ancient Indian texts, they talk about how to use urine to be infinite, to live immortally, right? So I mean, it's like intense stuff when you read this sutra, this Dhammar text.
[Speaker 3] (4:21 - 4:23)
How long have you been practicing this for?
[Speaker 1] (4:24 - 4:45)
Well, I started actually, my first experiences was as a teen, because I got scabies and nothing was working. And I looked online, I found the Indian information, I was really into Ayurvedic medicine and other types of natural remedies. I thought, hey, I'm suffering, I don't care.
You want me to pee on it, I'll pee on it. And I did and it cured it overnight.
[Speaker 3] (4:46 - 4:47)
So only a few years ago then, right?
[Speaker 1] (4:49 - 5:48)
So yeah, yeah, just a few years ago when I was like 16, you know. So thank you for that, by the way. No, I'm 50 now, but I only really picked it up in my 30s again, because I remembered it when I had my daughter, right?
And she was born when I was about 37. And I was like, oh, yeah, I got a, I don't know why I gapped, but I started to use it then I started to age it, meet other people as well, who had used it for really serious things like, you know, breast cancer or, you know, like we're talking, they've been sent home to like pack their bags and deal with their, you know, their legal papers and die. And being able to heal themselves using urine, urine rubbing on the skin, ingestion, all sorts of things.
And Mike Cardamone and I are writing a book on it right now. So we're going to have more details for you on all the ways that Is Mike the comic?
[Speaker 2] (5:49 - 5:50)
Or is that somebody else?
[Speaker 1] (5:51 - 5:53)
He's a comic. He's a jokester.
[Speaker 2] (5:53 - 6:00)
He's the one that's been at like Confluence and stuff, right? Or am I thinking of somebody else? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Mike, you're Mike. Don't slap Snooze, right?
[Speaker 1] (6:00 - 6:01)
Yeah, don't slap Snooze.
[Speaker 2] (6:01 - 6:04)
Okay, cool, cool. I never knew his last name, you know?
[Speaker 1] (6:04 - 6:06)
Oh, yeah, he's Italian. Hey.
[Speaker 2] (6:06 - 6:08)
Yeah, I love Mike. Yeah, I love him.
[Speaker 1] (6:09 - 6:15)
So yeah, he's funny. He's got that dry, dry ass humor. So that's come in in his sections in the book.
You're like, oh, Mike.
[Speaker 2] (6:16 - 6:19)
He and I relate really well on our humor as well. So it's great.
[Speaker 1] (6:20 - 6:27)
Yeah, he's awesome. So that'll be coming out sometime next year, if we ever get to like the third chapter. We're getting there, though.
[Speaker 2] (6:28 - 6:39)
So would people like, when you say age it, like, you just like throw it in a jar and then just put it aside? Should it be like in a dark, cool place? Like, leave it out in the sun?
Like, what's this process?
[Speaker 1] (6:40 - 9:27)
Well, there's a couple different ways. You know, think of fermenting, right? Put it in a clean, sterile jar.
And for the first two or three weeks, or even up to a month, or even all the way if you want, like, there's no hard and fast rule. But you put some layers of cheesecloth on it, and you just let it breathe, put it in a dark place. Or some people sun it and get the energy of the sun into it.
So there's like different ways you can, you can experiment with this. I like to do the sunlight first and then move it out, usually put it in the basement for a while. And then after about four weeks, I cap mine, because I don't want everything to evaporate away.
I'd like to keep things, you know, contained. And then after about four weeks, you know, you can start to use it. I have one from like 2017.
That's my super potent stuff. It looks like cognac. It looks like this really nice bourbon color.
It almost smells like a perfume. I use it for like the real, you know, if I really have something going on, like a migraine, or, you know, I'm really just not feeling right. I'll put it in an enema.
I'll let it collect to fresh urine for the enema. And then I'll add in, you know, a certain amount of it. But it's so precious because I only have so much of it because I let it evaporate so much.
So I had to add back some water. Because that's when I was really learning how to properly do it. But yeah, that ultimately, by the time you, you know, let it sit, you have millions of stem cells in there.
So you can repair just about anything. I just did an interview with Fiona Gardner, which I highly recommend on yummy.doctor. And she does messages in urine. That's her Instagram account.
And she was trained and works for the Bagelsons. And she does microscopy and crystallography of urine. So she takes the urine and looks under my microscope and takes images of the crystallography and all the beautiful light and patterns that it creates similar to what you know, Beta Austin does with her crystallography of water.
And it is mind blowing, honestly, especially for urine imbibers. So those who drink their own urine, they increase their own light inside of their bodies. And you can see it in the microscopy.
And those who don't drink it have more of like a discoloration, or not really much color at all, or just sort of blobby, similar to you know, Dr. Imoto's experiments where you say something negative to water, and it doesn't really form crystals. But when you drink your own, it makes like prisms. And basically, you're giving yourself color therapy, just through your own light of your own living waters.
So I'm going to send her some of mine. So she can take some pictures of this book.
[Speaker 2] (9:27 - 9:34)
That's fascinating. But so pretty much, what you're saying is that you pee in your own butt when you have a migraine or something. That's pretty much what- Yeah.
[Speaker 1] (9:34 - 9:35)
Pretty much. Yeah.
[Speaker 2] (9:35 - 9:36)
I love it.
[Speaker 1] (9:36 - 10:29)
And you can snort it. You can snort it. If it's a sinus migraine, I get sinus migraines.
Oh, okay. You can snort it. Like you can put it in every orifice, right?
Like you can put in your eyes, you can put it. That's what we're working on now in the book, like different methods to use for all of these things. Like you don't need cortisol.
You don't need any of these sinus drugs, these pseudofeds, any of these poisons. You just need your urine. You don't need to purchase any of those things, eyes, ears, nose.
You can use it as a mouthwash. It'll whiten the teeth. It'll repair cavities.
Like when I interviewed Fiona, she was talking about how she had all this metal in her mouth. She started to use her urine and also mix it with aged. And all of her fillings just one by one fell out.
And then she had these huge gaps in her teeth from this material coming out. And she just kept doing it and it healed over her cavities.
[Speaker 2] (10:29 - 10:34)
When you say you snort it, is it like, is it the crystal that you're snorting? Is it going to get crystallized or you just snort the liquid?
[Speaker 1] (10:35 - 10:42)
Don't get excited here. Okay. No, it's just.
So sorry. I'm like, you know. Don't do lines.
You're not like lining it up with straw.
[Speaker 2] (10:42 - 10:48)
I'm going to take out the credit card. You have to hit the plate first.
[Speaker 1] (10:50 - 10:51)
Well, that's nice.
[Speaker 2] (10:52 - 10:58)
I just do it on the top of the toilet, you know, like I'm in the bathroom with the club or something and I just pee on it.
[Speaker 1] (10:58 - 11:16)
You don't need the back of a hooker. Like you don't need any of those things to do this. Like it's just that easy.
So no, like you put it, you know, you have like this little special spot in your anatomy. You have your anatomical snuff box, you know, put your thumb out. You have a little cavity there.
[Speaker 2] (11:17 - 11:17)
Yeah.
[Speaker 1] (11:17 - 11:30)
I've never even like, I've never even noticed that. Anatomical snuff box, baby. So you can just put a few drops in there and just get it up there and you know, good to go.
Good to get to work.
[Speaker 2] (11:31 - 11:42)
It's really interesting because, you know, like I said, like it's not something I've ever really done. It's not something I feel drawn to. And yet, you know, the things that you talk about and that you say, it is fascinating, you know.
[Speaker 1] (11:43 - 11:43)
Yeah.
[Speaker 3] (11:43 - 11:47)
How come you opted for a fresh brew rather than an aged brew this morning?
[Speaker 1] (11:48 - 12:34)
Yeah, I don't really drink the aged. I haven't really gone there yet. But I do use it in an enema.
I have used it in my eyes. I have used it in my ears. It's really strong and it can cause, the only thing to just pay attention to is it will put you into a cleansing mode.
So some people, they dive in really hardcore, like Mike's like that, right? He's like, oh my God, my eyes were just oozing pus for days. Like he put aged in his eyes, like constant.
And he just had such a cleanse of his eyes. He had all this gunk coming out for weeks. And now, you know, the resolve is gorgeous, but it's, you know, you have to pay attention to the fact that it is going to cleanse you and you don't want to be down for a couple of weeks.
You want to gradually start your cleansing process.
[Speaker 2] (12:35 - 12:39)
His skin and his eyes are pretty gorgeous, you know, so.
[Speaker 1] (12:39 - 12:41)
Yeah. I saw you noticing him. Yeah.
[Speaker 3] (12:42 - 12:43)
By the river.
[Speaker 1] (12:44 - 12:44)
Yeah.
[Speaker 3] (12:45 - 12:50)
So what is your resistance, Yerasimos, to diving full deep into urine therapy?
[Speaker 2] (12:51 - 13:01)
Well, I don't know. I don't know if it's resistance as more just like it's not something like my sacral isn't like, uh-huh, you know, like I'm not like, uh-huh, I want to do it.
[Speaker 3] (13:01 - 13:07)
Is there any generator cycle that first comes across this idea of drinking piss? And it's like, oh, yeah.
[Speaker 2] (13:07 - 13:22)
Well, I don't know. Maybe if someone has like health issues that they've never there's nothing that can help them and then they get to a point they're like, uh-huh, I'll fucking try anything, you know, and like I'm not at that place, but maybe I will. But maybe if I do get a headache again, you know, I used to deal with headache.
I never dealt with headaches ever.
[Speaker 1] (13:22 - 13:24)
Well, your ear, you can use it for your ear.
[Speaker 2] (13:24 - 13:42)
My ear actually kind of stopped. Oh. Out of nowhere, like 70 is a long story.
I won't get into it now. We'll talk about it offline. But yes, that's that's that you had mentioned that and I never did it.
Putting you just put like, let's say I aged my urine for like a month and I would just take it a dropper full and just drop it in.
[Speaker 1] (13:42 - 13:49)
Yeah, or juice fresh or either or. Yeah, or you can even mouthwash it because it's ear, nose, throat, right?
[Speaker 2] (13:49 - 13:59)
How do you deal with the like fermented urine obviously probably doesn't smell ideally. Or does it smell okay after a while? He says like.
[Speaker 1] (13:59 - 15:13)
It will build ammonia, you know, and go through different stages. But after it becomes very concentrated and, you know, generations of it just continuing on, it smells right. Like it's it's it just somehow resonates.
You're like, oh, yeah, that's me. That's concentrated me. And and you can even drink your own partners.
Maybe you're more interested in that. Maybe you got to talk to Sophie about that, because like actually, if when you do that, you actually get the information of your partner. I'm not kidding.
I know it's water sports and all that shit, but there's a source. It's just the source is laying down on bed. Right in your mouth, just go for it.
And like the thing is what you get hormonal information from each other. So if you want to produce a baby or if you want to fix fertility issues, this is the way to do it. You can actually go from infertile to fertile just by exchanging your own urines with your, you know, permanent partner.
So yeah, honey, we have some work to do next week. You know, I'm not making this up. I'm getting trusted sources.
[Speaker 2] (15:14 - 15:32)
Well, again, at some point, it's like when people are coming out with their experiences and with like hard data of like their personal experience, what happened? At some point, you have to be like, that's what do you know? What do you do with that?
Like, you have to start paying attention. You know, it's like I could sit there and go, whatever, other things are happening. But, you know, it is fascinating.
[Speaker 1] (15:34 - 16:58)
Yeah, I know that my first like response to it when I remembered it again and I was going to drink it, I had all the same ick. The ick is normal. It's like it's programmed into us.
I mean, it's just like the same programming as the ball earth or dinosaurs are real or, you know, antibiotics save lives or all this shit, right, that they feed us. It's no different. You have to get past the first phase of it.
So I was grossed out too, even though I knew I already read all this information. I read Martha Christie's Your Own Perfect Medicine. That was the first book I read.
I read John Armstrong's Treaties on Urine. I just, I kept reading. I'm like, okay, here I am.
Here I go. But I couldn't just drink it. I had to actually rub it on my skin and then I had to rub it on my lips and then I had to take a few drops and I had to go that way.
But then I was reminded that I already drank my own pee because as soon as you're in your mother's womb, you're drinking your urine. I mean, it's literally the fluid you're bathed in for nine months. First, you're bathed in her urine and then you start, when you start peeing, that's what you're drinking.
That's what you're bathed in. Literally, that's why you get that baby soft skin coming out, right? It's all your own urine in the amniotic fluid.
So, full of stem cells, full of nourishment, full of information, full of structured water. It's like, oh yeah, it's our living waters. That makes sense.
So, then I'm like, I'm over it. And once you drink it, you're like, it's, I've done it.
[Speaker 2] (16:58 - 17:08)
I've done it. I get, and I bet also too, once you start seeing results, you know, if you're, this is a personal experience, then you're like, oh, okay. It gets reinforced.
Yeah. Totally.
[Speaker 1] (17:09 - 17:11)
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[Speaker 3] (17:12 - 17:13)
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[Speaker 2] (17:14 - 17:25)
Well, if AF means as fuck, then I definitely consider myself real as fuck for sure. I mean, we did create a podcast called Here For The Truth. So, I think we're closer to being that than the opposite.
Exactly.
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[Speaker 1] (17:46 - 17:47)
Back to the episode.
[Speaker 3] (17:48 - 17:55)
Hey, I'm really curious for the dinosaur thing, because I've heard this a fair bit, but haven't delved deep. Can you give me the brief synopsis on that?
[Speaker 1] (17:55 - 18:57)
Yeah. I mean, the idea of evolution is just laughable. I mean, the longest that we really can see, like the longest dates seem to be about 6,000, 7,000 years old is what we are.
The idea that we have had some sort of an age of a dinosaur back before humans and all this shit, it's just laughable. I mean, it's been torn apart so many times. Actually, Eric Dubé did a whole documentary on dinosaurs, which I recommend if people are interested in that topic, because he went through everything quite well.
And yeah, what they were doing, actually, when they were finding giant bones is they were, first of all, the Smithsonian steals the bones. They don't actually, the dinosaurs you see on display are not the real bones. They make copies of things.
So they say, because there's radiation and those bones are dangerous. So they don't even show you the real stuff.
[Speaker 3] (18:57 - 18:59)
Aren't those bones apparently fossil fuels?
[Speaker 1] (19:00 - 19:49)
Yeah. So are they bones or are they fossil fuels? Which is it?
Like, that's bullshit. First of all, that's oil is renewable. It's a renewable resource.
It's mother's blood. All those places that they take oil from, if you come back there, it's replenished again. So that's all the scarcity lie.
You know, it's a classic business move, right? That's how you make things expensive. And the oil sands are also just what expresses how much evil, how evil these people are, knowing that oil is renewable and it will reconstitute itself and you don't need to do oil sands or any of this strip kind of behavior.
It's, like, disgusting what they're doing. If you want to do strip behavior, you know, when you want to do urine therapy and water sports, that's a whole another topic. But that type of strip mining is not the good kind of stripping.
I was looking at you and I said that, Erasmus.
[Speaker 2] (19:49 - 19:50)
Thank you, thank you.
[Speaker 1] (19:50 - 20:51)
So, but like the whole understanding of our past was that we were giant, that we were bigger, like everything was bigger, not just we were bigger. The plants were bigger. The reptiles were big.
Everything was bigger. So you're going to find bones of all the things that were larger. And that's how they sort of hid that history, our giant history.
The time of the Titans, the time, I mean, we do have some documented bone discoveries of very large humans, right? 11 foot tall, 12 foot tall humans, etc. So we know that that's there, but that doesn't fit into their narrative.
So they just hope on ignorance, I think, grand ignorance. But dinosaurs were just larger, are larger creatures that we already have. And we probably had more things that are now extinct.
I do think we had like the flying dragon, you know, that seems to be real. I mean, when you look at astrology, that's part of astrology and everything that they've put in there, you know, you have to take kind of honestly and look at that.
[Speaker 3] (20:52 - 21:02)
Well, even like mythologically, there's so much that harkens back to dragons, but there's nothing about dinosaurs in like ancient drawings, ancient art, you know, which is curious as well.
[Speaker 1] (21:02 - 21:53)
Totally. Yeah. I mean, this is a newer idea for sure.
But if you understand, like, if you really dive deep into all of these truths about our realm, you know, where we live, where we don't live, then the dinosaur theory, the evolution theory just falls apart. I mean, we weren't just randomly floating and then randomly something random happened. And then chaos loves to be chaos, but randomly, we went from one cell to two cell to three cell to four cell to five cell and all this kind of shit.
No, we have single-celled organisms and then we have complex organisms. We have never found proof of two-celled organisms, three-celled organisms, four-celled organisms. I mean, there's too many gaps, right?
But a lot of people just don't think through it, right? They don't. Well, they're just like, I don't have time.
[Speaker 2] (21:54 - 22:01)
Like, I don't have time to think through it. I'm told certain things. I read certain books in school, and I'm getting on with my fucking life.
You know? Mm-hmm. That's how most people operate.
[Speaker 1] (22:02 - 23:48)
Yeah, that's how people, you know, most people are. I mean, when I was growing up, I thought everybody was a seeker. I thought everybody wanted to know all this stuff.
I just assumed. I just projected what I was doing onto other people. I'm like, oh, don't you want to know?
You know, why isn't that important to you? Well, it was just that it was important to me for my path and when I had to learn and how I had to develop. And it actually is kind of a lonely path in some ways, too, because a lot of people just call you crazy or name-call you or dismiss you or use, you know, ad hominem attacks and things.
They don't even want to look at it. They just feel threatened immediately when you make such claims. You know, I'm at the end of the claim making the final statement, but they're not seeing the whole lead up and research that had to go into that to come to that simple conclusion, right, that dinosaurs didn't exist.
And it's probably coverage for a lot of the dragons and a lot of these other creatures that we did have because they're burying and hiding our history because they don't want us connected to who we are and the knowledge of our connection to our creator and how unique we are, how special we are, how powerful we are, right? You destabilize a population when you lie to them like this, when you confuse them about whether they're up or down, you know, and that they just came from some spark of dust and some, like, fart in the wind random event. And this idea that, like, space is infinite, infinite, infinite, and there's, like, one million, trillion, zillion, kazillion, like, astronomical numbers of things that just you can't even, your brain can't even really comprehend.
And it's because it's not meant to because that's not reality, but it keeps us, I think, disconnected, you know? It's interesting.
[Speaker 3] (23:48 - 24:16)
I'm reading the Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe series to my daughters. I'm up to book two, Prince Caspian. And, yeah, so, the new king has come in and, like, he's tried to delete the entire history of Narnia that there ever was, like, talking lions and dragons and witches and stuff like that.
Then there's this tutor that's trying to plant seeds for the prince that all this stuff was real and happened. So, it's just an interesting connection. I think C.S. Lewis was definitely onto it in certain ways, for sure.
[Speaker 1] (24:17 - 26:18)
Yeah, I mean, if we have extra lands that we haven't seen, right, outside the ice wall. So, if that's true and there's more land, which seems to be from the moon maps, we have more land, things that they're hiding from us, more resources, then what's there? What type of life lives there?
Is it different from here? And what about, like, the experiments they've done, the genetic experiments that were done? We had more genetic knowledge and knowledge of how to manipulate the body then than we even do now.
Well, at least what we do have now, they hide from us, right? So, what were they creating? We had those pictures of, like, dog-headed people and cat-headed people and the big foot and the stuff where you're, like, okay, I think I'm done.
Going down any more rabbit holes after you start seeing, you know, cat people and dog people and that kind of stuff. You're, like, I'm out, you know? But it's there.
That information is there. It's just, what are we missing? What of our history have we been, you know, has been hidden from us?
And it's a lot. So, you really have to be open-minded and willing to be okay in that discomfort, that cognitive dissonance sort of discomfort energy when you come across this information. It's just so many people just immediately dismiss it.
They'll say, well, I'm not even going to, I had someone say, I'm not even going to listen to what this person has to say because I disagree with one of the statements that this person said. I'm like, well, that's one way to never know anything. And how do you now know things if that's your attitude?
Like, how many times have you done that with other people that you refuse to listen to because you don't agree with one of the sentences that they said? So, therefore, you're claiming your pride is saying that I'm ignorant and I'm proud of being ignorant? Like, what?
That makes no sense. But it's just the energy of discomfort that a lot of people don't want to sit in when you have that contrast, right? Yeah.
[Speaker 2] (26:18 - 27:19)
It's that and the curiosity that I think a lot of people maybe have lost that, got beaten out of them in the conventional school system. But, like, unlike you, like, I was always wondering, don't you want to know this stuff? Don't you want to pick up that book?
I love challenging my beliefs. Like, I love when I come across something and it's like, oh, shit, I thought it was this. Now it's this.
And I got to navigate that, you know? So, again, it comes down to being comfortable with the discomfort and comfortable with uncertainty, you know, and living in that state and also being humble to the fact that, like, how the fuck can you know everything? Like, you're born into a family.
Your parents teach you some shit. Then you go to the government schooling system. And then you go to college.
And then you come out and you start your job. You put most of your focus on that. And then what?
You think, like, you have a fucking clue of what the hell is going on in now and also 10 years ago and 100 years ago and 10,000, whatever, however many years ago. Like, ah, there's so much shit to know. And yet people are like, no, I know.
I have the answers. Vaccines are safe and effective. That's it.
Because CNN told me.
[Speaker 1] (27:20 - 28:59)
Well, that's and back to urine therapy for a second. That's when someone acts like that. What I've come to learn is that they're in a state of fear.
So they're operating from, you know, fear-based reality, right? And survival thinking, which, you know, because obviously this type of information can threaten the idea that you have of your own survival, your survival of your tribe. What if you come to them and say, hey, guys, did you know the earth is flat?
You know, what happened in my family when I came out and said, hey, there's no viruses. There's no COVID. That was all a hoax.
Like the kind of, you know, I got extradited from my family for that. That's it. That's like a survival threat.
So that's when somebody is working from a place of fear. They're not going to rock the boat, right? But when actually one thing about imbibing of your own cistern, drinking from your own cistern of your own waters, it brings you from a space of fear into love.
And one of the things that I hear on repeat from people who have trusted me and done this is that their fear and anxiety leaves them. And they're just so grateful for it because they didn't realize that the way that they were running their lives was fear-based. And that means their decisions were based on a retraction, not an expansion of their true, you know, selves, of their true energy.
And a huge difference in how they operate their life, how they navigate their life, how they go into information, how they trust themselves in that information, right? So, getting out of fear into love states is, I think, pretty much the goal of life, you know, if you want to boil it down to something and that this is one simple way to do it.
[Speaker 2] (29:00 - 29:26)
Yeah, for sure. And it's interesting, too, when you think about it from the urine standpoint, like to really accept yourself. Like, if you're drinking your own urine, there's got to be a certain level of self-acceptance and self-love, I think, you know, on some level.
I mean, maybe there are those that do it just to do it when they're still dealing with all the shit that they're dealing with. But, you know, I think there's some gap that gets closed when you go down that path.
[Speaker 1] (29:27 - 29:52)
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, self-care, self-love, self-acceptance, all of those things. And they're evident in the outcomes, you know, when it comes to finding a balance back into your health and well-being from a mental, emotional, physical stance.
People heal. And so the proof's in the pudding, right? You just have to get through the initial stuff.
But it's very, very powerful.
[Speaker 2] (29:53 - 30:09)
It's interesting, too, because it's like, sure, there could be properties in the urine. But like, also, just from a non-physical standpoint, if you're shifting your mindset into a place of more self-acceptance, more self-love, what is that doing to you from a healing standpoint? So it's like, I feel like it's both.
[Speaker 3] (30:10 - 30:12)
I think I'm going to drink my piss this week.
[Speaker 1] (30:13 - 30:15)
Go for it, Joel. Come on, man.
[Speaker 3] (30:15 - 30:17)
Next shower, next shower. I'm having a gulp.
[Speaker 2] (30:18 - 30:34)
Yeah, I kind of just want to transition a little bit to you and your story. And how did you get into this? What's your personal hero's journey, heroine's journey, your major rites of passage?
What guided you down this path to really start questioning?
[Speaker 1] (30:35 - 34:14)
Well, I was born into pain. So my first two years of life, I was wriggling in pain. I was lucky enough to have a vaginal birth.
But those times in the 70s, there was a lot of ignorance around childbirth, as there is now. But at least there's more options to find the information. Back then, it wasn't really promoted or it wasn't on TV or anything about breastfeeding and natural birth and that kind of stuff.
You had to really go into that or be bored of that world to know it. And so I got my first colostrum, but I didn't get breastfed. And so they were giving me formula with cow's milk.
And that's just probably corn syrup and who knows what else. But I had colic, severe colic for two years. I was put in a crib.
I felt very alone with my pain. And I think that shaped a lot of my first years. And I created in myself a connection to nature very young.
I felt connected to the natural world, to animals, to trees, to plants. I just felt they were my brothers and sisters. And I just felt that naturally.
It wasn't something that someone told me or taught me or anything. I just thought that was life. I assumed a lot in my youth.
I assumed that when you walk down the street, you say hi to everybody. Why wouldn't you? That's just normal.
You have to talk to everyone and know everyone. And you have to read every book. And that's what life is about.
And that's what I thought as a child. Until one day I went into one of the biggest libraries I ever saw in my life. And I cried because I'm like, I don't think I can read all these books.
It's just going to be too many. How am I going to do this? And I even to the point where I looked up how to do photo reading, which is a type of speed reading, so that I could get through more books in a quicker way.
Because I'd always be reading. As soon as I could read, I was reading. And I would have 10 or 12 books on the go at any given time.
Always. And even the point where I'd get in trouble at night because I'd be under the covers with the flashlight reading the book. And I'd get in trouble because I have to go to sleep.
So I also had mystical experiences around the ages between 8 and 10 or so. Where I had my guide with me that I could see perfectly well, like a real person. I didn't think it was an invisible person.
Everybody else kept gaslighting me, though, and saying that she was invisible. I'm like, bitch, this woman is here. OK, I have her name.
You know, make a place for her at the dinner table and stuff. So they just went along with it for a while. But she taught me everything.
She taught me about our aura, our biofield. She taught me about chakra systems and how the trees don't just eat, you know, don't just need sunlight and water and nutrients. They also need ether and how they eat the ether.
What the ether even is. And that the moon is conscious. And all these orbs and all these things we think we see, they're all conscious.
They're all aware. And that everything is alive and everything is aware and that everything is connected. I was like, cool, cool.
You know, and I grew up like that. And then one day the moon and her, they said goodbye. And I was very traumatized by that.
I felt very abandoned. I had a whole abandonment theme throughout my whole life because of my crib experiences and this experience. And I was like, fine.
You know, they said, we'll always be there. We'll be listening, whatever. I'm like, well, that's not great.
Like you, you were helping me and now you're just abandoning me. And I was pretty angry. So I went through sort of a phase of like, fine, I'll just fit in.
[Speaker 3] (34:14 - 34:16)
And how many years was that relationship?
[Speaker 1] (34:17 - 39:21)
A couple of years. OK. Yeah, a couple of years.
Yeah. Between eight and ten is what I remember. I could have been a little younger because nothing was really quite recorded.
But I'm pretty sure I remember how my room looked, which is, so I know the years of that. Yeah, between eight and ten. And then I guess I was going, starting to go through puberty.
And that's when everything was changing in my body. And so whatever that connection was, couldn't stay. And so I absorbed it, apparently.
And then later on, I just became like, I was just a so-called normal kid, went to school. Wanted to be an artist, was interested in painting, was interested in just creating. I was a very creative kid.
You know, I'm a generator. So I'm a little machine, just pumping out stuff like you wouldn't believe. And when I went through school, I realized that, you know, I loved animals.
I always grew up with the animals, cats particularly. And that when I started to think about my career and what did I want to do for my future, you know, that pressure comes up. Like, who do you want to be?
What do you want to do? And I was like, well, I want to be an artist. And then, you know, my dad had said actually, well, you can't make money doing that.
And I was in shock. I was like, you can't? But there's all these famous artists and they're millions of dollars.
I was like, oh, I was mistaken, I guess, because I just trusted my dad. I was like, okay. So I switched my tune.
I'm like, okay, maybe I have to go into something that makes money. And so I made a list. I did a whole column sheet.
Like, what am I good at? What do I have experience with? What do I want to do for my future?
Like, what could I do? What am I smart enough for? Like this kind of stuff.
And I first came up with vet tech. Okay, I'll be a vet tech. I wasn't even bold enough to go full veterinarian at that point.
I went to look at that at Seneca College. I was like, whoa, no thanks. It's basically euthanizing animals all day.
I'm not into that, right? And then I decided, let's go for it. Let's see if I can do veterinarian.
And I had to go to university. I went out to Alberta, did my undergrad degree in agricultural biotechnology. So the irony of me going into an undergrad degree that is freaking biotechnology, which is like the opposite of everything I teach, was really eye-opening for me.
I think my path, my hero's journey path was putting me in these weird places to see the other side, to see the dark spaces, to see what's wrong. You know, working in the halls of medicine at the University of Alberta when I was going into, I worked at CALAS. I was an animal lab technician.
Seeing the experiments being done on rats and mice and cats and all this stuff, it was just disgusting, disgusted me. I saw also firsthand how pharmaceutical companies use these universities to produce studies that are cherry-picked based on the outcome and even that the hypotheses are massaged to get the outcome that you want to get your drug passed and stuff. I'm like, this isn't freaking science.
This is masturbation of science. This is like, you're just, this is art. Okay, you're like, this is not pure science.
And so I saw, you know, a lot of that firsthand. Went to go into get to vet school. I wanted to be a holistic vet because I'd met my mentor who was a holistic vet.
And incredible. Animals would be brought to him not being able to walk. And he would do acupuncture on them and give them Chinese herbs.
And they would walk out of there, right? This kind of shit. I'm like, whoa, okay.
Whatever you're doing, I need to learn. And I remember he had a whole wall of Chinese herbs. He says, I want you to taste every single one of those herbs.
And I want you to tell me what the taste of those herbs tell you about the medicine inside. And like, was it bitter? Is it sweet?
What is it telling you? So I started to learn about herbal medicine really deeply even before naturopathic college through my mentor, Dr. Stephen Marsden, who operates out in Edmonton where I was living. And so he inspired me to go and become a naturopath because I didn't get into veterinary college because I went all bold and all hippie like, you know, I was like the wrong thing.
I'm still in a nice little outfit, but I was like, I'm going to be a holistic vet. They're like, oh, no, you're not. I'm like, okay.
I didn't know it was that hostile. They actually called me a quack. I was like, wow, you actually, you did that.
You, you use the word quack. I'm like, geez, that's, do you even know where that comes from, bro? Like, obviously he didn't know that that is a term for MDs who were using mercury, quicksilver to like kill their patients.
Had nothing to do with holistic or natural or, you know, traditional practitioners. It was actually MDs were called quacks. Dude, you don't even know what you're saying.
But anyway, I didn't get in, but it was a blessing because I don't think I could have gone through conventional medical school. I mean, I could barely get through naturopathic college because I'm even fringe there. All right.
Like, once I started questioning germ theory, I'm like, you guys are full of shit. You guys keep promoting this virus shit. What are you talking about?
[Speaker 2] (39:21 - 39:27)
You're naturopaths, man. They were, aren't they? Weren't they pushing the vaccine too?
Some of them kind of got co-opted, I feel like.
[Speaker 1] (39:27 - 42:48)
Oh God. Way long time ago. I talked to some of my elders are like, dude, it's already bad.
Okay. You're coming in and it's already degraded. We don't even have urology anymore.
You know, all our energy medicines are being slowly phased out. Even homeopathy now is an elective. I'm like, what?
Homeopathy is one of our pillars. What are you talking about? It's an elective.
So I knew that there was an agenda to damage naturopathic medicine. So I got in all hot and heavy and political as I do with my big mouth, made a lot of enemies as I do with my big mouth. And it was like, I think it was a goal for them to never let me graduate, or not graduate, sorry, never let me get licensed.
I think there was an agenda there. Like it was dark shit. Like I was getting all kinds of weird experiences, psychic experiences, like psychic attacks and stuff.
There was some weird times going on in my life. Now all the while I'm starting to wake up to deeper, deeper topics, right? And I also had my Kundalini awakening in 2000.
And that sort of blew the lid off of everything too. And I became like in my spiritual ego, because the first phase usually of awakening, you go into your spiritual ego, which is like super annoying, because everything's love and everything's light. Everything's awesome and everything's perfect.
And you kind of blow off other people's problems because you're like, just be happy. You're like in this annoying phase because you had this moment where you saw that everything was perfect and everything was fine. And everything is connected, right?
But that's not the reality of the density we're in. So you have to go through all of these stages. And that's when I pretty much started into my naturopathic career was like, that was 2000.
I started naturopathic medicine 2004, graduated 2008. And after graduation, I got into like this huge opportunity to create a community. I really wanted a sense of multiple practitioners.
So a multidisciplinary approach of health, right? Where we all sort of sat around and discussed one client, one patient, and devise or created a perfect protocol for them. I always wanted to build community.
I always want to understand that. And it started off well, except for the fact that once I took that test, so first of all, there's two colleges. A lot of people get confused.
There's the teaching college. So CCNM, I graduated. And then there's a licensing body that they've also called a college just to confuse everything.
They're not a teaching college. They're just an administrator bully, basically. So at second year, you have exams.
And then fourth year, you have exams from them. And that's additional. So it has nothing to do with your training.
You have to pass your training to apply. So there's different licensing rules. So I didn't pass one section of that test.
So how it works with the test, it's all based on everybody else in your class. So if most of your class got 100%, then the fail rate would be like 80% because you'd have to get higher than that percent, which I thought also was stupid. So the pharmaceutical section, I failed that by 1%, okay?
This three-day test.
[Speaker 2] (42:48 - 42:49)
How dare you fail that?
[Speaker 1] (42:49 - 53:12)
I know. Because it actually made me sick to study it. Like it was so against life.
It was really hard to study and do that section, okay? But I did. I memorized all these drugs.
I'm like, this is stupid. We're gonna get people off drugs. Why do I have to know all the categories, all the prescribing, all the stuff?
Well, I know why now is because you're trying to make naturopaths do that. Be prescribers. Be like wannabe MDs.
That's exactly what they're up to. So I rejected it from my soul, but I ended up getting like, I think it was 73% on that section, but it had to be a pass at 74%. So I went to them.
I said, dude, you don't understand. I can't rewrite a whole three-day test. You will tank my business.
Like I just launched and it's a $10,000 a month rent. Like, you know, there's this like a major thing that I've started, which is a blessing. But if I have to study again to rewrite this whole test, this business will fail.
I will lose my shirt. And I know all these professors, okay, that are on the board. They were all my teachers.
I know them personally, but I didn't know that I pissed off so many of them and that they hated my guts. I didn't know that. So they would not budge on this 1%.
They wouldn't let me just write the section again. They wouldn't let me do anything. They didn't care.
They didn't care. I thought I felt really disgusted by that, but I was like, fine. Okay, fine.
I'll have to write the stupid test again. I'm not confident that this is going to go well, but I'll do it. And so here I had tried to like study again and also focus more on the chapter I hated the most because I had to make sure I was like sky high in those marks.
And, uh, and all the while trying to keep this big project going at yoga classes running. I had, I had like Dr. Moda's world water event that I hosted there at the property. I mean, I was doing so major events, all kinds of stuff.
I was still trying to see clients and I was operating under another teacher's, uh, friend of mine who was helping her with her health. Dr. Hannah Weidenfeld, I was helping her cause she had cancer. She, um, so if you don't have a license, you can use another NDs license if they give you the permission to do it.
So that's how I was doing this. So I could still bill through insurance and stuff because they wouldn't give me mine. Right.
So here I am doing this, like this is six months and I write the test again and I fail the same section again, but worse. And I was like, wait a second. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Something's up. How this is impossible. I have memorized every fucking drug.
Like there is no way I could have failed this section. Like you're telling me I passed this whole test all over again, but I, now I got, I think it was even a higher, it was like 73% or something like that. Um, you know, and I had to make it, I had to be a 74 or 75 or something like this.
Okay. I have to look back at the numbers, but it was like that. I was so angry, but I felt targeted.
I felt like, um, I felt like something happened there, you know, and I couldn't get any proof of it. I was asking questions. There were a lot of guilty energies around because I did have a favorite teacher who was on the board at that time and she died soon after that.
She didn't do well. I don't know what happened to her, but it was bad mojo all around. And I just said, are you kidding me?
I'm going to have to somehow appeal. I'm going to have to somehow, I don't know what to do. What do you do in that situation?
Right? Like I, there's no proof I can find. They're all colluding.
So I ended up having to continue to practice. I told them I was going to have to continue or else I was going to lose everything and that we needed to communicate and come to some conclusion. They said, oh, well, you're welcome to write it again.
You want me to do an expensive three-day test again for one mark or two marks of a very weird, you know, marking system. I said, this is insane. You do know that, right?
And so there's no justice in these situations. You just, you either get it or you don't. It has nothing to do with your intelligence.
Didn't matter that all of, so we had other tests where we had, you know, clinical tests where you had to perform, you know, we get a patient there, you had to perform, you had to do whatever they asked you to do. I got a hundred percent on all my practicals. Every practical I was stellar at.
I was so good clinically. And for them to be like that, to not even consider my case before the board and review it, you know, with conscious awareness and thought and consideration or being flexible, I knew they were out to get me. So I went, so then there were, I had a lawyer friend and we were going to sue them.
So there was this started. Now the legal stuff started. Then I met someone who started teaching me about law, who came to live with me and started teaching me about Winston Stroud and all the credit and commerce stuff and all this.
So then all the laws began to come into my life. And I think that's why this all got set up was because I had to learn the court system. I had to learn about law.
Once the person who I was renting from, renting to own found out that I didn't have the license, they evicted me. They evicted me at Christmas. They did it.
They treated me like the most terrible. That's why I think it was a psychic attack because these people were not normal. This is not normal behavior.
This is hate-filled, you know, behavior. And, you know, we didn't even have a coat the way we were thrown out. It was so violent.
Then they tried to keep my deposit because it was a rent to own. So then they tried to steal $100,000 off of me. So I had to take them to court.
So I had court with them. I had court with the board because we were suing them. Then they entrapped me and tried to sue me.
So we were just, it was incredible times. And I ended up losing everything. Even my dog died.
My boyfriend and I broke up. It was one of those Eckhart Tolle, I don't know what's wrong with my camera. It keeps moving.
One of those Eckhart Tolle moments, okay, where here I am with nothing on a park bench by myself. But spiritually, I felt fulfilled. I felt like I was being guided.
You know, I didn't, that could have put someone in a really dark, dark place. But where I was spiritually, I was in a very happy, light place. And I just saw it as part of whatever was happening here.
Whatever's, I'm not allowed to get licensed for some reason. There's a reason, you know, rejection is protection. Something's going on here.
And then I met my daughter's father during that time, got pregnant. I didn't even know I wanted to be a mother. I became a mother.
It changed my whole life, right? And I began my business at that point. And then when COVID hit, so I had been running my business since 2012 and making all my remedies and doing all these things and being my creative self again and really flowing into my who I am.
And it was a really beautiful time. And I got to raise my child the way I wanted to and homeschool her and, you know, home birth her and all of these things and, you know, be an inspiration for other mothers and other, you know, support other babies and children naturally. So I really did a lot for mom and baby at the beginning of my business, especially.
And then COVID, you know, came. And I realized at that moment, oh, this, this and the DMSO story, those two things are why I am not licensed. Because I would have been pulled before the board probably 50 times over for what I'm doing.
They don't want me to use DMSO. They don't want me to promote it. They don't want me to say the truth about there's no COVID.
I wasn't allowed to give even protocols for COVID if I were licensed. Like none of my colleagues can do that. So I did have a lot of people reach out to me, a lot of naturopaths reach out to me saying, thank you, you know, for doing this and you're an inspiration to me.
But I'm gagged. I can't speak. I can't act.
I can't do anything. I will lose my career, you see. So a lot of our practitioners were gagged because of the licensing body.
And so license is an anagram for silence, right? So I was not silenced. And I just kept speaking.
And now I understood why I had to go through that, why I wasn't licensed, why I was free as a practitioner, as an independent practitioner, you know. And then I just kept going from there, kept building the business. Now I have yummy.doctor teaching people how to doctor themselves. I often don't even recommend naturopaths anymore. I only have like a few friends that I trust. Most of them are like green allopaths now.
They're still pushing vaccines and virus theory and all this crap and antibiotics. And they're pushing drugs just like I foretold or saw that they were going to do. And NPN numbers on all of our medicine.
So everything's controlled by Health Canada, which are corrupt criminal organization, does nothing but murder and kill and maim. You know, it's nothing to do with health or well-being. You know, we have these satanic institutions running things.
And it made sense who I am in the hero's journey, that tough journey, that I couldn't be in alignment with them. There's no way that I could do that and that my soul could handle that. So that's really how it all kind of laid out.
And, you know, I was sad to lose some of the abilities that I had trained for. You know, I really enjoyed a lot of the chiropractic work. I enjoyed acupuncture very much.
And but without the licensing is too dangerous, because the insurance companies won't usually protect you. And, you know, if there's a malpractice or anything, because, you know, you'll get needle stick injuries. You can get, you know, problems that can happen when you do these types of interventions.
So I just had to walk away from those. But I learned energy, hands-on healing modalities, all kinds of, you know, various forms of Reiki, various forms of biofuel tuning, healing. Even the point where I was like humming over someone's body and like using that kind of frequency.
Like there's so many ways we can heal. It becomes more and more elegant as we go along. Just like I was starting off in the beginning with urine as like one of the top healers that we have for ourselves.
We don't need the doctor. We just need to go to the bathroom.
[Speaker 2] (53:13 - 53:19)
If you drink your urine and then hum, does it like expand the healing properties? Like with the sound, like reverberating through the body?
[Speaker 1] (53:20 - 53:26)
Well, you know, you're thinking outside the box now. Maybe you should do a little scientific experiment on that.
[Speaker 2] (53:26 - 53:44)
I think I might, you know, because I remember reading a book a while ago, The Power of Humming, you know, just like using sound therapy, but with yourself. Like you don't need it. I mean, sure, there are all the other instruments and things you could do.
But just even the power of humming, what that does from like a vibrational level within yourself. So then that just made me think of it like, oh, you just drink some urine and then hum and then, you know.
[Speaker 1] (53:45 - 53:46)
Well, they do suggest that.
[Speaker 2] (53:46 - 53:48)
I'm a pioneer. I'm a pioneer. What can I say?
[Speaker 1] (53:49 - 53:49)
You are a pioneer.
[Speaker 2] (53:50 - 53:52)
Let's write a book together. Okay. The Power of Urine Humming.
[Speaker 1] (53:53 - 54:08)
Urine Humming, or I could sneak a chapter in this book. But like, even when you ingest your own, it's suggested that you meditate with yourself during that time because you can get more insight, you know, with your own light quotient going up.
[Speaker 3] (54:09 - 54:11)
So what is the recommended dosage to start?
[Speaker 1] (54:13 - 54:20)
To start, just a few drops usually, like a few drops under the tongue, like treating it like a homeopathic remedy.
[Speaker 2] (54:20 - 54:27)
I thought I'd just like fucking chug it, like old school college days, like crack open the whole beer and just kickstand the urine.
[Speaker 1] (54:28 - 54:53)
Well, two ounces first morning is kind of your average first day dose. You know, if you want to loop, if you want to drink all day's urine, that's a whole another thing. That's like a type of cleanse.
You know, that's John Armstrong's treatment is looping and you're rubbing them to the feet when there's like severe end of life kind of issues, like end stage cancers, that kind of stuff.
[Speaker 2] (54:54 - 55:05)
Yeah, yeah. Interesting. Well, it's also cool even just with you saying I put a little watermelon juice.
For some reason, I was like, oh, wait, you can't, you have to have it on its own. You can't just have your urine and then, you know, maybe add something to make it be a little bit more palatable.
[Speaker 1] (55:06 - 55:13)
Yeah, at the beginning, I used to use orange juice, like pretty thick, pulpy orange juice. I didn't even want to know it was there. Yeah.
[Speaker 2] (55:13 - 55:20)
Just take a little half cup of OJ, put it down to my waist, squirt, squirt, and take a little drink. Let's go. It's even easier for you guys.
[Speaker 3] (55:21 - 55:24)
No vodka, orange, and urine. Vodka, orange, and urine.
[Speaker 1] (55:25 - 55:49)
Actually, when I was at Soulshine Festival, it's our local festival here, man, we had so many ideas. We had like an elixir bar idea, like an elixir mixer where it was like the pee-pee bar. And also like people would get together and they all pee in the punch bowl and then they all like drink it together and they all like get, you know, deeper insights on each other.
It's like a bonding experience. We had all kinds of ideas going on.
[Speaker 2] (55:50 - 55:55)
We got to talk to Alec for the next Confluence. We got to get a little pee-pee bar going. Pee-pee bar, yeah.
[Speaker 1] (55:57 - 55:59)
Whatever gets it down.
[Speaker 2] (56:00 - 56:01)
Yeah.
[Speaker 1] (56:03 - 57:32)
Yeah. So, yeah, it was quite a journey to get to this stage and, you know, it's kind of sad and I feel kind of sad lately because I really feel the world, you know, I feel the destruction, I feel the changes. I think a lot of us, you know, on some level feel it because we are all connected.
So that's been like tough just navigating all those emotions and what's happening in the greater, you know, the greater changes. And I do feel like optimistic ultimately, like in the long run optimistic, in the short run, it's quite devastating. So that's been kind of difficult.
But again, using your own waters and like tuning into yourself is really the best way to navigate all of this, all of this world and your path. And, you know, I really dove back into astrology again because I realized that the hero's journey and everything, the healer's path is all in my chart. Okay, like the Chiron placement is literally the healer's journey, the wounded healer path, right?
I have that. So I have to go, I go through all these physical experiences myself and as empath, I like pick up people's stuff a lot and process it through me and try to understand that and like learning how not to, you know, how not to sponge off of people because it's just a natural thing that happens. And all of this stuff, all of the journey is in my chart.
[Speaker 3] (57:32 - 57:39)
It's mind-boggling when you- Does anything shift with your absorption of astrology when you move away from a globe model?
[Speaker 1] (57:41 - 59:59)
Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, astrology, all astrology is based on flat earth because it doesn't work on a ball model. So even all the modeling that exists now that's been done is all flat earth. It's all based on firmament moving around us and we're stationary.
So not necessarily flat per se, but we're stationary and the heavens move because that's the only way you can really do the math. So it sort of proves itself. But then there's the Vedic, right?
So the question is like, is it the 12, is it the 13 and how does that affect us? But for the most part, unless you have some really strange placements, it seems like it didn't change much for me as far as what the information was telling me. It was just maybe my filter of how I was perceiving the information was a little more altered or a little more tuned in than before because I'd studied it.
I'd had been interested in it since the age of 12. So you'd think that I would have mastered all of that stuff. But then once the flat earth information came in for me in 2017, it was like my own intuition became better at some of these things where I was able to, I don't know, pick up on new layers of myself through the information and I had to revisit the whole thing all over again.
And of course, the human design system did that too for me, right? Because when I found out about that, I think everything was all around the same time, 2016, 2017. It was the virus thing, the flat earth thing, and the human design system.
And I was doing charts for people back then because I was really fascinated about that whole understanding all the different gates. And so I really dove into like the gate stuff more than I do now. But it's just, I always saw it as something insightful.
Like I'm gaining insight into myself. I'm using it as a tool to know thyself better, to be able to like navigate my emotions, to know when certain trends or patterns are coming up in my life, what I'm supposed to learn. So I just found that I was more insightful later on.
But maybe it was even my age, just getting on in years, different type of perspective.
[Speaker 2] (1:00:00 - 1:00:40)
Yeah. I love, I pulled up your, because I know we've chatted about human design, I pulled up your life theme from just one of my books here. And I just want to read a paragraph of it because it just relates to I feel like a lot we've talked about.
Your life theme is to bring refinement into an untidy and careless world. You are very particular about your own environment and through your deep inner attunement to beauty and creativity, you feel an urge to refresh, realign and recreate everywhere you go. When you are clear in yourself, your inner sensibilities and creativity easily enrich your surroundings.
When you're unsettled in the world around you will take on a gloomy appearance too, as though it contains more trouble than you can resolve. For you, an enriched environment is an enriched life. Obviously goes more into it, but I don't know, just feel like it lands and resonates.
[Speaker 1] (1:00:42 - 1:01:49)
Yeah, that's pretty accurate. Yeah. And it even got to a point where that can go into the negative where, you know, you're hyper controlling your environment too much or you're like being like, it has to be just so or I'm not going to work, you know, or like everything like when I was going to university, I had to clean my house before I could sit down and do my like homework, right?
Or my projects, like I had to have my space just so before I could work. But now I've embraced like whatever the space is, I know I can roll through it, even though, so it's like not, I'm not, it's not a control issue anymore as it used to be, which is nice, very freeing because I have a teenager in the house. So, you know, that's got to be the, I've got cats.
I've got things that are going to make messes. And so it's like always this teaching of like being okay when the environment has to shift or is going to be like less than perfect. And that I bring the energy of the environment.
That's the most important thing, you know, you can light up a room, right? Even though the room isn't perfect, you can like change the energy. Mm hmm.
[Speaker 2] (1:01:49 - 1:01:56)
All this stuff you were talking about, the challenges with natural, did that happen in the first 30 years of your life? Or was that like, kind of like.
[Speaker 1] (1:01:57 - 1:02:12)
Yeah, I was in, so it was in my, I'm trying to remember the transition there because I was, so I'm 50 now. I went to school between 2004 and 2008.
[Speaker 2] (1:02:13 - 1:02:13)
Okay.
[Speaker 1] (1:02:14 - 1:02:16)
So sort of.
[Speaker 2] (1:02:16 - 1:02:35)
Sort of. Yeah. Kind of like, I was just curious because, you know, first 30 years of your life, technically from an HG standpoint, it's all about a deep discovery process of just like trial and error and learning like what works, what doesn't work and kind of going through a little bit of chaos.
So it kind of lands still, even if it's like plus or minus a few years, you know.
[Speaker 1] (1:02:36 - 1:03:39)
Yeah, definitely. There was a lot of that. And always having to be my own advocate.
You know, I never really had, I never really felt like true support from other people. So I just kind of assumed that, okay, this path is alone. It's a more lonely path, you know.
Like even when I was with my partners, I just have these long contracts with these partners. But it always felt like they came into my life so I could help them or fix them or heal them or something. And then off they went and found their real partner.
And then I get another one. And I was like, I always just get projects instead of partners. So I just had to accept that it's just like a singular path, I think, for me is what it is.
You know, like this is the way I see the patterns. So obviously that's how I'm meant to be strong, you know, or is meant to give me strength. It could break some people.
But for me, it's like I look at it as something I'm supposed to achieve. Joel, you had a question or you were going to say something?
[Speaker 3] (1:03:40 - 1:03:53)
I was going to say, what's your process been, I guess, with sharing some of your ideas and philosophies, you know, with your daughter and raising your child? Is she open? Is she aligned?
I'm just curious how that's been.
[Speaker 1] (1:03:54 - 1:04:39)
Yeah, she's pretty amazing. You know, when she was little, like, first of all, I had a lotus birth with her. So that means you don't cut off the umbilical cord, you let it fall off naturally.
I had a water birth, home birth. I was very nourishing to her when I was carrying her. And then, you know, I was very focused on the right way to do this.
Like, everything was about that. My business then came from that. So really, because of her, because of her is why I have this business the way I did, the way it started, because I wanted to serve other families.
And if I had not had a baby, I wouldn't have been thinking about cloth diapers and amber teething necklaces.
[Speaker 3] (1:04:40 - 1:04:40)
Right.
[Speaker 1] (1:04:41 - 1:07:13)
And manufacturing a diaper cream that was fully natural and a sun cream that was fully natural, because I couldn't find one because I needed one for my daughter. And I needed to develop my tooth soap, my toothpaste product, because she had a cavity and I had to heal it and I healed it with that product. You know, I just kept using that, the opportunities that were presenting themselves as a mother of what a mother would need for her, you know, for her child and obviously a father too.
And learning all about that. So it really shaped the way I formed everything with the business. And she got to grow up in that, right.
She grew up pretty much unschooled. I did put her in a little bit of daycare. I did put her in a little bit of early kindergarten, because it's all forest-based anyway, play-based.
She learned some social skills like it was valuable for that. It was across the street. It was a little small town, you know, it was like, it was wonderful.
We go for walks on the boardwalk. I show her the plants. I teach her all the ways, right.
So she's very, very wise. She's hyper-independent. She's always been hyper-independent because I did attachment parenting with her.
I did the fourth trimester. So once she found her way at age about four, she's like, yeah, I'm good. You know, she's so secure because she knows I'm there for her no matter what, you know, she doesn't have that.
She doesn't, she didn't grow up with trauma. She didn't, other than her father abandoning her, which I told, I actually did one of her homeschooling modules was on astrology. And I walked through her entire chart and I said, here's where your father left you.
Here's how this is designed. It's not your fault. This is what God's lessons are for you in this path.
This is how you navigate these things, right. So that she doesn't feel like something's wrong with her or why would her father do that, you know, and I'd been explaining to her why a traumatized individual would act that way and has nothing to do with that other person. It's everything to do with their lack of self-worth, that they don't feel good enough to even be there, to even exist in your reality.
And to the fact that they see you as better than them and that you're, and that they think they're going to just screw you up by being with you or being around you. So it has nothing to do with like, oh, they don't love you or care for you or any of that. It's actually the opposite.
So she understood that she's very intelligent and she knows a lot of these things. She makes her own skincare stuff on her own. She invents, she's like a mini me.
So watch out world.
[Speaker 3] (1:07:16 - 1:07:20)
Amazing. Thanks. No, thanks for that.
Yeah.
[Speaker 1] (1:07:21 - 1:07:22)
How's that pee?
[Speaker 2] (1:07:23 - 1:07:31)
What's that? Your mic went real low. How's that pee?
It's delicious. Amazing. Next time we hang out, we might have to just swap pee.
[Speaker 1] (1:07:33 - 1:07:35)
Well, I mean, you have to talk to Sophie about that, you know.
[Speaker 3] (1:07:36 - 1:07:41)
I love how we like, we keep having like conversations, like 20 minute detours, then just like back to the pee.
[Speaker 1] (1:07:41 - 1:07:42)
But back to pee.
[Speaker 2] (1:07:44 - 1:07:50)
It's kind of one of your things, main things that like, you know, you talk about, you advocate for, and you're fucking writing a book on it right now.
[Speaker 1] (1:07:52 - 1:07:57)
Yeah, that, you know, DMSO is a big one too, obviously. Like that same thing, you know, it was around 2017.
[Speaker 2] (1:07:57 - 1:08:09)
Can you talk about that? I know you shared it at like, you know, the events that we go to, but can you just talk about it? I know you could probably give a whole two hour talk on it, but like, what is it?
You know, what is it good for, et cetera? Yeah.
[Speaker 1] (1:08:09 - 1:15:47)
I mean, I designed my whole business, like once I realized, you know, the power of it and that I could make synergistic blends and pull that in to what I already made, what I already had created. It was like game on. I'm like, let's go.
I'm the only one that I know on this earth that makes what these, that uses DMSO in these blends in this way. There's just nothing like that. Mainly because they would shut it down.
They don't want us to do this. So there's that. But yeah, once I learned that it was like a little blip of it in naturopathic colleges about pain, you know, it's good for pain.
Like that was it. That should have been a whole module. That'd been like, dudes, you need to know about DMSO.
It's an extract from trees. It's anti-inflammatory. It's transdermal.
It heals skin. It heals tissues. It freaking, it chelates metals.
Like it's like, I mean, what doesn't it do is kind of more what we need to study. So once I experimented with that and experienced it, I started to read, I dove into it. Like I do what I did.
I went deep dive, read 50 studies, did all this stuff. And then I did a video. I did like a quick YouTube video.
This is back at the beginning of YouTube videos for me. And it went viral. It was like the pretty much, I think the only video I ever did that naturally organically went viral.
It was pretty exciting for me. And then because of that video, the publishing company found me and they said, hey, can you write a book for us on DMSO? We think that you know your stuff.
And I said, absolutely. So there came Healing with DMSO out of that. And the blends that I kept making, kept making.
And I mean, now I just like the last creation was DMSO with wild yam cream for hormone balancing that I just designed. It's got chaseberry and black cohosh and wild yam. And it's like four times extracted.
And you can actually use DMSO as like a tincture medium to extract plant material, plant information. So, you know, using the wisdom of this powerful solvent, it's like a pure solvent that doesn't alter. And it can deliver, you know, your nutrients to your body to the point where like if you couldn't eat, you could feed yourself using DMSO and nutrient mixes through your skin.
All right. You can stop heart attacks and strokes with this stuff. Like it's major.
Like we have an opiate crisis. If you haven't noticed, they could have just used DMSO, right? But this is where you go, wait a second.
We've had DMSO really popularized since the 70s. Where to go? Why don't we, are we using fentanyl?
Why using all these things we know get people addicted and basically homeless? What's going on? Well, because they don't want that.
They can't patent it. They can't use it to make their money. They can't make people dead, dying and, you know, sick, which is the goal.
They don't want population control and reduction. They don't want health and well-being and production. Like the opposite.
They got robots for that now. They don't need us. Useless eaters have to go.
So, that's why they suppress all of our remedies. How many thousands and thousands of beautiful remedies that we have available to us that they have made into some sort of danger? They have created some sort of story or made fake science to, you know, try to scare people away from it.
And so, I was bringing that to the truth. I was bringing that to light, talking about it and using it. And so, dmso.store, that website has all my DMSO blends. All my blends. From facelift in a jar to, you know, the DMSO with added nutrients. DMSO with magnesium is really potent.
I even suggest that for people starting urine therapy because it can protect you from like the detox response, you know, where you get like phlegm and all the symptoms of cleansing. Yeah. So, DMSO is like a powerful tree extract that makes trees strong.
It's from lignin. It comes out of the lignin. And they have to remove it in the pulp and paper industry so that they can make it into pulp, right?
It's a waste product, literally. And then industry takes that waste product, purifies it, and sells it pure. And I actually have the purest DMSO on earth because my guy does like the highest grade purification that his equipment.
And that's the stuff I use in all my blends. So, yeah, it's really something to know about. And that's why I made the book is so valuable because it has a dilution chart, how to use it safely, how to understand it from a detox perspective.
So, I had a case of someone, a friend of mine, okay? She told me she recommended DMSO to this woman who had sciatica, really bad sciatica, to the point where they were going to do surgery and all this stuff. And she just slapped on a 70% onto her butt and onto the back of her leg.
And she had a huge cleansing reaction rash. So, all this stuff, you know, starts coming out her skin. And she's new to it.
And my friend probably didn't prime her, you know, well enough to, like, give her the heads up that this could happen. So, she freaked out. She freaked out.
And she's like, her husband freaked out and was freaking out. And she's going to go to, like, the physical therapist. And they're going to have to, they're going to give her shit.
She's afraid she's going to get in trouble. Like, it's just drama that happened, okay? And I said, well, just tell her calmly that just increase her magnesium levels because that's a master catalyst for the liver.
Help her, you know, understand what's happening with this muscle that's probably very toxic because it's too tight. It's not allowing to repair itself. And probably her, she's probably taking all kinds of suppressants.
And yeah, she's taking anti-inflammatories and all these poisons. I'm like, well, her liver's not going to work properly. So, that means the skin's going to be used as the elimination route instead of the nice way.
So, here you are. And so, she explained that to her. And she sort of understood it, you know, intellectually.
But this is someone more in emotion. So, that needs to be satisfied. She comes back to me yesterday.
She says, well, good news on this case. She said that somehow because of this expression, because of her emotional reaction to it, because of everything that happened, an old trauma surfaced for her of a sexual abuse history, okay, trauma came out. And she realized the power of the medicine, what it was trying to show her about her sciatica, that it wasn't just a physical problem, that it was a problem of her history and her emotional trauma that she had put in her body and held in her body.
And that it started to release, hence the emotions that were coming out of her and her reaction. So, I was like, there you go. You know, this is the patience that we need when we're really healing our bodies, because it's going to take you there, especially if you've been hiding from it for, what, 50 years, who knows how long this person was hiding from this pain, right?
And they manifested it physically. And so, the DMSO as a natural product actually helped her to see the root cause and elucidate that and release that. So, she was very grateful.
After everything was said and done, she was very grateful and came to her healing through this path. So, amazing to me.
[Speaker 2] (1:15:48 - 1:16:06)
I've been meaning to, I keep forgetting, but I've been meaning the DMSO, the, why can I say it? Anyways, your cream for your face. You know, I got to stay looking young, you know, now that I'm in the public sphere as a podcast host, you know?
Do you say sphere? Yeah. Public sphere, whatever.
Fucking.
[Speaker 1] (1:16:07 - 1:16:10)
The public tube tourist, you know?
[Speaker 2] (1:16:10 - 1:16:13)
The public whatever, you know? It's a fucking saying.
[Speaker 1] (1:16:13 - 1:16:18)
Well, yeah. Like, if you're going to be on the cover of GQ, it's like, you better, first of all, put your urine on first.
[Speaker 2] (1:16:18 - 1:16:19)
Okay.
[Speaker 1] (1:16:19 - 1:16:34)
Then the facelift in a jar, because they work really well together. The DMSO will send the urea deeper, so you'll get some nice plumping going on, you know? Because as you age, it gets kind of sallow and hanging.
So, it's like, it's a facelift, literally.
[Speaker 2] (1:16:34 - 1:16:44)
I got to keep this shit tight, you know? Real quickly, where did the name Yummy come from? Why did you name?
Why? Yeah, like, what's that?
[Speaker 1] (1:16:45 - 1:17:28)
I don't know anymore. You know, I mean, why I stayed with it is because I'm freaking loyal to a fault. I actually, when I was coming up with the idea, you know, of what am I going to do?
Because I had my baby in, like, this little hunt cabin, went up north, left the city, knew I couldn't survive with the situation I was in, have this baby. And then my partner abandoned us for the first time. And I went, oh, shit.
Okay, well, I'm going to have to work, right? I'm going to have to earn, something's going to have to happen. What am I going to do?
And I meditated and prayed and like, give me ideas. And so, the opening platform of the idea was Yummy Mummy Granola Company. I was going to make granola.
Okay. So, that's where it all started.
[Speaker 2] (1:17:28 - 1:17:29)
Yummy Mummy. Okay, got it.
[Speaker 1] (1:17:29 - 1:19:49)
And I went, okay, well, granola is actually not going to work. I looked at everything, it's not going to work. But I started selling, the mom and baby stuff started happening because I was going to baby group with my child meeting other mothers and their needs.
And they kept asking me, oh, can you get me this? Can you get me that? Okay, sure.
So, I only had like $700 or something like that. And I used almost every penny to buy high-grade amber from Lithuania. Because when the baby wears amber, that stops the drooling and the pain in their mouths.
And my baby was like a night and day testimony of that. And I told other mothers like, oh, my gosh, can you please get me that? So, I was like, prayed.
I was like, okay, I'm putting my neck on the line here. I bought it. And I ended up selling it all in like two weeks.
I like quadrupled my money. And I went, okay, let me start a Facebook page. So, I just went with the Yummy Mummy thing because I was the only thing I had thought of.
So, I was like Yummy Mummy Emporium. And I just like, I'm an Emporium, you know. I don't be store.
I don't need anything boring. So, Emporium it is, right? So, it was Yummy Mummy Emporium.
And sold that stuff and started selling like cloth diapers. I was bringing in bulk and little cute leg warmers and stuff because they're very practical for crawlers. And whatever was working, whatever moms needed, I supplied it into my community.
So, that's how it started. Then I found out the Yummy Mummy is a porn category. And I'm like, oh, okay.
Maybe we're going to move away from that part. And so, then I started to look at, you know, the Yummy part because it was so branded by that point. Just take the yum aspect or the yummy aspect, which to me means like delicious, like things that are natural, things that you can eat, you know, skincare you could eat.
So, deliciousness, that we're delicious, you know, being delicious. But then from the doctor aspect or the nature aspect. So, then it became Yum Naturals from Yummy Mummy Emporium.
It was too long of a name anyway. I was like, added apothecary onto it. I'm like, Yummy Mummy, Emporium in.
Apothecary is like way too long. So, it's funny how things just evolve. So, that's sort of how we came to the yummy and the yum part.
[Speaker 2] (1:19:51 - 1:19:56)
Cool. Thanks for sharing that. I was so curious because I would always see that everywhere.
I was like, where did the name come from?
[Speaker 1] (1:19:57 - 1:19:58)
It's because I'm delicious.
[Speaker 2] (1:19:59 - 1:20:00)
Of course, of course.
[Speaker 1] (1:20:02 - 1:20:02)
Naturally.
[Speaker 2] (1:20:03 - 1:20:14)
What are you, what's up next for you? I mean, besides the book, like, what are you excited about? Like, where are you at in your life?
Like, what's the next level of growth or excitement that's happening for you?
[Speaker 1] (1:20:14 - 1:21:39)
Yeah. Well, I have something wrapped in silk that I won't, I can't talk about yet, but very excited. It involves travel and a new modality, learning a new healing modality.
So, that's happening next month. And I've really just been connecting with local community a lot. I'm working on a couple of renovation projects on my property.
I'm, you know, it's really tough. Like, I haven't felt settled here really because it's Canada. And I haven't been sure if I want to be in Canada for the long haul or not.
And I haven't had clarity on that, but I still am, like, investing in my 53 acres. So, I'm probably going to purchase, like, a nice greenhouse, which is, I want, like, a more geodesic greenhouse or a teepee greenhouse or something. I don't want the traditional.
And probably a bunkie as well here so people can stay. I might do retreats. I was looking at either doing a retreat or some sort of group event because people have been asking me to, you know, I go to all, I go to Confluence, I go to Music in Sky, I go to all these events, but people want to really, you know, deeply learn and not just get, like, an hour or two hour, you know, lecture kind of thing, right?
So, I'm thinking of doing something a little more immersive. So, that's sort of in the plans.
[Speaker 3] (1:21:39 - 1:21:39)
That's cool.
[Speaker 1] (1:21:41 - 1:25:08)
Yeah. And just preparing the gardens for winter, you know, making soap, doing the things I do, inventing. We just promoted, or we just published our library for private members at yummy.doctor. So, we have an A to Z library now. Just, they can look up their condition in it, and I have protocols and suggestions, where to start, all kinds of stuff. Because I do, like, a live Q&A for my members on Thursday nights, and it's just growing and growing and growing, and I'm like, oh my gosh, there's no way, you know, I can get through 50 questions in a couple of hours, right? So, how we're trying to streamline the information is through these courses, through the library that's ever going to, you know, keep being built, and, like, really just empower people to know what to do in all kinds of situations.
Like, I just taught a first aid, like, I did a first aid lecture at our Soul Shine Festival, and that's going to turn into a course. So, what to do? Like, a lot of people, they don't want to go to doctors anymore.
They don't trust them, right? It's like the third leading cause of death, rather. So, we don't want to go there.
We don't want to put our loved ones in danger, but what do we do in emergencies? You know, how do we handle these things properly, and what are best practices if we do have to go, and how do we protect ourselves with power of attorney and, like, all those things? So, you know, just trying to get people really prepared to be as, like, sovereign as possible, how to utilize plants as medicine, how to, like, change their lifestyle so they can be in the best position for all the changes that are coming financially and otherwise that, you know, have been planned for us.
So, that's really it. Just, yeah, the book, and then the courses, building the courses. It's a lot of writing.
It's a lot of thinking, and what's interesting is I'm 50 now, and you know that human design system, it changes when you hit 50, and holy schmuzzle, it is weird. It's, like, it's so different. How I am has changed so much, and it's non-linear for me now.
My life was very much almost masculine energy because I'm a Leo son, so I present my life very masculine, right? Like, linear work, like, A, B, C, D. I do this task, and that task, and that task, and so on, right?
Like, work, work, work, and now it's different. Now it's like, oh, I have to flow over here, like, flow over there, and I have to only partially finish this task, and now I have to procrastinate this task. Why am I procrastinating this?
It's so bothersome to me because I'm normally, I'm, like, on top of my tasks, and it's because there's a whole different timing that I'm being shown, a whole different way of, like, life, and so I feel like I'm being reborn again, and it's very daunting to be 50 and feel like you don't know anything, like, feel like you're a baby all over again. That's what it's like, so I'm having to trust again. I'm having to, like, listen to my inner guidance even more.
I have to, I'm softening into my feminine more. It's just, like, my life is like a spiral rather than a straight line. It's very interesting and also kind of daunting, but I'll, I'm sure the lessons will be wonderful.
[Speaker 2] (1:25:10 - 1:25:18)
I love it. Thank you so much, really, for coming on and hanging out with us. I love this conversation.
It was so much fun, and just nice to hear more of your story, too.
[Speaker 1] (1:25:19 - 1:27:22)
Yeah, thank you for that. Having a casual talk and just being who we are and, you know, just telling the stories about how we've come into this world and what the heck, you know, how things happen, how we become, right? It's quite fascinating how we, how our lives shape us into ourselves and this endless journey, and actually a lot lately I've been looking again at near-death experiences.
I find those really fascinating, you know, because there's such patterns there of people, like, they die, they see certain, you know, energies, they have certain conversations, and it's always told they're not done yet, they have to go back, and this is a school, and we're here to learn, and we're here to become individuals because where we come from, we worship God all day long, so, you know, we get a break from that to go on our little journeys, and it's just sometimes those stories really calm me and just remind me of the bigger picture of who we are and why we're here, and because a lot of people, I think, have lost meaning in their lives and just become quite soulless, and I think we lose it to find it, but, you know, it's a reminder for me not to, like, energetically take that on.
I'm way through that phase of my own life when I was younger, I don't need to go through it again, I'm not abandoned, I don't have to be angry at God, I don't have to do any of those things in my youth, you know, it's that we're really remembering who we are, and it's a precious experience that we're having. As weird as it is, as warped as it can be, it's actually something that we can be very grateful for to have the opportunity to be individuated souls with this type of experience and to be able to connect with wonderful people and have community and have these kinds of conversations with cool dudes like you. So, thank you very much.
[Speaker 3] (1:27:23 - 1:27:43)
Well said. Yeah, thank you. I've loved getting to know your story on a deeper level and, you know, it's a deep one, that's for sure, and I don't believe any of the challenges that we face in our lives are coincidental by any means, and I think you've grasped that deeper meaning yourself for sure.
So, yeah, I just want to echo what your response has said and appreciate you and appreciate this conversation.
[Speaker 1] (1:27:44 - 1:27:53)
Yeah, thank you. Thank you very much, both of you, and we'll have to do it again sometime and talk about how you're now pee drinkers and you're really proud.
[Speaker 3] (1:27:54 - 1:27:57)
My cup is empty and I need to pee, so I'll let you know how I go.
[Speaker 1] (1:28:00 - 1:28:02)
Perfect, I want to hear all about it.
[Speaker 3] (1:28:03 - 1:28:04)
You will, you will.
[Speaker 1] (1:28:04 - 1:28:05)
Thank you, Joel. Thanks, Amanda.
[Speaker 3] (1:28:06 - 1:28:44)
Everyone else, thanks so much for listening. We'll see you next time. Hey, guys, I hope you enjoyed that episode.
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