Joel Brown Navigating Babylon: Truth, Love & Liberty

[Speaker 2] (0:00 - 1:07) You are now listening to the here for the truth podcast hosted by Joel Rafiti and Erasmus Stelionesis All right, everybody welcome back to here for the truth episode 34 and we're here with Joel Brown today I'm an incredible dude who's sharing some pretty impactful truths on social media at the moment a little bit about Joel Joel Brown is a master coach, speaker and founder of the number one motivation website addictedtosuccess.com which has achieved over 332 million views worldwide over the last 12 years Joel is featured in the new hit movie Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill and the We Rise Up movie with Richard Branson. He studied theology human behavior for the last decade. Joel is the host of the Addicted to Success podcast that's achieved more than 5 million downloads featuring thought leaders such as Matthew McConaughey, Tony Robbins, Gary Vaynerchuk and many more Joel, firstly man, congratulations on that first name. It's a pretty special name to have [Speaker 1] (1:08 - 1:10) It's a pretty dope name, man [Speaker 2] (1:10 - 1:17) Yeah, I often try to explain to Erasmus what it's like being a Joel but he just doesn't get it So I'm wondering if you can break that down for us [Speaker 1] (1:19 - 2:12) Well, it's interesting because I think I've only come across maybe one or two other Joels in my life It's from the book in the Bible, Joel, he's a minor prophet And it was probably one of the most boring books in the Bible Because some people like, you know, when I meet my Christian friends, they're like, hey, you read the book, Joel? But yeah, and I was bored when I read it, but it was interesting because it wasn't meant to be a big book. It was just like a warning. It was a prophecy that he had shared in that time. And I like dug deeper into and looked at it all. And I'm like, it's interesting how we give meaning to names, right? And certain words we use, we make it mean something And I think I've never really felt like, you know, some people don't like their name Like for me, I've just embraced it going, yeah, cool You know, like, it feels like it's a rare name I don't know about you, man. Have you come across a lot of Joels? [Speaker 2] (2:12 - 2:14) I'm with you, man. I love my name. [Speaker 3] (2:14 - 2:57) I feel really connected to my name We're special people, bro I've known a lot of Joels in the U.S. I mean, not like a hundred of them, but, you know, definitely a good handful, but I'm so curious, like around names, like what is, what is in the name? Like, is there like some kind of frequency in a name that, especially if it comes from somewhere, like, do you, do you live that out? Like, I'm, you know, I'm named after Ayos Yerasimos, which is St. Yerasimos, which is the patron saint of the island of Catalonia, where my father was born and raised on. And he was the healer and protector of the island. So it's like when I, when I kind of realized that I kind of took more ownership of that name, of that Greek name, I used to go by a shortened Americanized version of that for most of my life. So I don't know. It's interesting to think about. [Speaker 1] (2:58 - 4:23) There you go. Well, I guess it depends, right? Like if people struggle pronouncing your name, if it's a bit longer, you tend to shorten it for time's sake and to create clarity in those, those short moments. But it's interesting because, you know, my girlfriend, we're having a conversation. We're like, if we were to ever get to the point where we had a child, like, what would you call your girl? What would you call a boy? Right. And so we had this kind of conversation, hypotheticals, and she's Spanish. So like certain names in Spanish, to me in Australia, like in English sounds terrible. I'm just like, what, why would you call a kid that name? Like, it just doesn't sound right. And she's doing the same. Like, I think I picked a really beautiful name. And I say it and she's like, nah, because in Spanish, it means this. So it's funny how we all have our own different associations than interpretations. But, you know, certain names, I hear some people say sometimes I'm like, oh, a Michael, like, yeah, my mind goes to like all the Michaels I've ever known. And if I did, I have a good or bad experience with a Michael, and then you kind of categorize them and put them in buckets, right? And you know, for any Michael that's listening, I haven't had any bad experiences that way. But it's just like, you know, example, that's what we do, right? We like to put things in boxes. We like to put labels on it, because it makes us feel safe. Because it makes us feel like we've worked that person out, or we know that type. Yeah, we do it in pretty much everything in life, right? [Speaker 2] (4:24 - 4:37) Yeah, man, it's the primordial fear of the unknown, right? And if we don't know, often we pretend that we know, we pretend to be certain, right? Because, yeah, there's a lot to unpack just in that simple conversation. [Speaker 1] (4:37 - 4:46) Little do we know that there's a lot of a lot of the what we don't know that we don't know, in the space as well. [Speaker 3] (4:46 - 4:46) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (4:46 - 4:48) So it'll be open to that. That's for sure. [Speaker 3] (4:50 - 5:23) Joel, and by Joel, I mean, you Joel, not not here for the truth. What I guess want to start off, man, getting into your like your personal hero's journey a little bit like, what were some of your major rites of passage that got you from, you know, growing up in Perth to being master coach and then speaking out on what's going on in the world today, as we witness this, this, I'd like to say totalitarian tiptoe, but it's it's, it's more of a fucking large eight cycle towards totalitarianism, you know, [Speaker 1] (5:24 - 12:13) no, yeah, good and evil arising at the same time. It's getting interesting, isn't it? Well, yeah, like, I'll take my mind back to a time where I wasn't even into looking into what all this stuff is, I'm probably pretty naive to the fact that the world has has evil entities and operates off empire. It was probably 15 years back, I was working in a nine to five job. Actually, before that, I was actually working in the music industry. So I was working with artists like Usher, Pharrell, Kelly Rowland, Ludacris, Flo Rida. I was producer manager, right? So I was managing producers, managing songwriters. I was in the music business at 20 years old. And I had all the red carpets and I had the the stardom and hanging out with the superstars and everything else. And I got to a point where I started to feel like this isn't it. And no one around me could understand it. You know, I was managing my my best friend at the time, one of my other buddies too. And, and I just got to a point where I said to him, I'm not coming back to America because I came back to Australia. This is a few years in. And they're like, what do you mean? We're like, literally just taken off. They started working with ASAP Rocky, they're going to be working with Kanye West, like all these big I'm like, it's just not here. And they just couldn't understand it. And they're trying to get me to articulate. I'm like, I can't it's just there's this knot in my stomach. And this repeating line in my head that you're not supposed to be here. And it's time to move on. I call it the whispers of wisdom, right? It's like God was like tapping me on the shoulder going, let's move now like do your thing, because I was in the background a lot managing everything from the from the background. And there's this nudge to like step in and go bigger. So I honored that. And I moved back to Perth, Western Australia, which is where I'm born and raised. I worked in a nine to five job, I got really good at sales. And in that meantime, I did a lot of self development. You know, I was working on a lot of my own layers, working through the healing, working through the strategy, you know, understanding the mindset I went I flew out to the UK to work with Richard Bandler, who's a co founder of NLP. I worked with him in London for a while, going deep into that. I came back and worked with Jordan Belfort, the Wolf of Wall Street. So not the original, but not not Leonardo DiCaprio, DiCaprio, but the original Yeah, Wolf of Wall Street. And he challenged me to cast a 10 year vision. And this is when everything started to become more and more real, because I actually got to ink out the things that I now get to consider to be able to craft the life that I truly desire to create. Because before it was always about everybody else, managing songwriters, managing producers, hustling in the business, being cornered into deals, or being blackballed from certain deals, if we weren't taking so it was nuts, like the type of thing, the politics in the music industry that I was experiencing at a young age. But it made me stronger and made me understand that this world is like a battlefield, you got to strategize, you got to, you know, get in, and you got to be strategic about how you play your moves. And it's about how you develop your mindset and your emotional fitness as well. So I took all that. And then I realized within the 10 year vision, that I wasn't able to implement the 10 year vision at the pace that I wanted to, because I challenged myself, I cast 10 years, I went, what would it look like for me to do this in three. And so it meant that I needed to bite the bullet and do one big swing. And that big swing that I committed to, was to work in the deserts of Western Australia, the Northwest of Australia. I dropped out of high school, I don't know if you guys know that, but I dropped out of high school. And so I didn't have any trade skills. But the only way that I could work in the deserts of Northwestern Australia to get paid 120 130 grand a year for good coin was for me to get a snake handling certificate. So I know it sounds kind of crazy. Some people listening like what the hell is like some Steve Irwin type stuff. But yeah, I went in and learned how to, you know, handle snakes and reptiles and learn how to work with the fauna, you know, the animals. And I worked my way into the environmental team. And I started learning all these other skill sets, how to drive heavy machinery and, and trades assistant skills, and I just worked my way through it. And I committed to that for nine months straight. I tell you, you're talking about, you know, like, we'll see each other in the prison camp or whatever it is, if we don't take the shot, right? Well, it felt like that I was doing 28 days straight with four days off working 12 hour shifts. And mind you, on top of that, when I go back to my, my chalet, my room at the end of the 12 hour day, I would sit there and I work on addicted to success. And I'd pump out like three or four articles a day. Because I could just see the vision, I was so committed to it. And so here we are, you know, 12 years down the line after launching addicted to success, getting a lot of attention from people like Dwayne The Rock Johnson, Oprah, Diddy, you know, I had a lot of celebrities sharing my stuff, which helped it to build traffic very quickly. You know, I saw that there wasn't much online at the time. It's this thing where you're looking for something. And it's like, how come nobody's created a solution for this? So I decided to be the solution. I was like, well, there's not, there was hardly any self development websites on online at the time, there were some spiritual based things. And there's also like psychology sites. But a lot of that was like reading a medical research paper, you know, people couldn't connect with it. So I would go and interview people that have crushed it. And then we would like dissect their strategy and a game plan and then share it with my followers. And people love that because I essentially did all the hard work and the trench work for them. And on top of it, I would go and learn very complex things around psychology, human behavior, theology, the philosophy, and I would narrow it down into a simplified model for people to be able to follow step by step. And it worked, it blew up, there's a formula to it, people want hope, they want to know that their life can improve and get better. And we built the whole brand off that. And I operate with my personal brand more so now because addicted to success has his own legs. I got my team that runs it. And it has got a reputation. We've been around for 12 years got the credibility and it works, you know, but yeah, the entrepreneurial journey is it hasn't been a straight, straight path. We've had the ups and downs, but it's been good, man. It's been good. Incredible. I tried to nutshell it. I know I gave you guys like 15, 16 years of like, the journey, but that's the nutshell. [Speaker 2] (12:14 - 13:03) Yeah, that was perfect, man. I mean, the path is made by working. We're walking and we learn as we go. And we figure things out on our own and we figure out what works. And I think so often people like we are always outsourcing how things are going to work for us, what a successful path looks like. But at the same time, for me personally, my experience, I feel like it's a really individualistic thing, depending on our circumstances, how we are, our own, I mean, I guess, psychology and emotional responses and behaviors, how we're raised. And just personally, in my experience, I've found that I've started seeing more success, whatever I've had when I started being more myself, to be honest with you, I mean, like stepping more deeper and more deeper into authenticity and who I am. What do you think about that? [Speaker 1] (13:04 - 13:16) Well, my question for you is how do you do that? Right? Like, how does that become apparent? And when does the penny drop? Because I know a lot of people can hear it. And I know I heard it too. I kept hearing you just be more of yourself. [Speaker 2] (13:17 - 13:17) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (13:18 - 13:28) And I am I feel like I am now I've embraced it. It was part of an evolution, right? Like, how does that come in? What's your experience? I want to know from you, too. Yeah, definitely, man. [Speaker 2] (13:28 - 14:21) I mean, it's my experience. It's always the inner work first. And it's recognizing those inner barriers that I've built, which prevent me from being myself. So you catch yourself in moments where, I mean, you know what you want to say, you know what you want to respond, you know what you want to share. For some reason, there's resistance and there's fear there. And that fear is often a result of, I mean, I guess, trauma, conditioning, guilt, shame, judgment, whatever it is. And my process has been in noticing that resistance and doing the release work that's necessary and diving in, asking myself the question. And I say this pretty much every episode, but as above, so below, as within, so without, the deeper I go within, it seems as though the further I'm able to extend outwards in this reality that we're experiencing. So the process for me and understanding how to be myself, is realizing what's preventing me from being myself, and it's doing that work necessary. [Speaker 1] (14:23 - 15:45) Yeah, I love that, man. I love it. Peeling back the layers. Yeah, I think society and our caregivers, you know, they're doing the best, our caregivers tend to be doing the best they can with what they have, but it's not always going to be conducive for the growth that we want, right? And society doesn't give a shit, like they're just doing their thing. So it tends to be like this, I look at it as like God originally designed us in a certain way. And it's like, here we are, we're the package, we're there, we're ready to rock and roll. And then we get like, it's like transparent. You know, if you've ever seen those old school projectors, where you have like a transparent sheet, and it'd be like drawn or written on it, and you project it up onto the wall, like, I'm sounding like I'm mad old right now. But I remember when I was in high school, you know, high school days, but I look at it like, you've got like God's original design is this template, and it's dope. And then next thing is like, you learn something from mom and dad that doesn't quite fit. And it like kind of, you take it on is, oh, that means that I'm not good enough. Okay, we'll go with that. That's just how it is. Next one. Oh, that means that I'm not loved. This one here means a feather and mistakes are bad, right. And then society says you got to you got to pay your taxes, and you got to do this, and you got to act this way. And this is pretty, and this is ugly. And this is what's cool. And we just keep getting scribble after scribble after scribble on top of these transparent sheets to continue to layer on top of us to the point where we don't know ourselves anymore. [Speaker 2] (15:46 - 15:46) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (15:47 - 17:03) The question is, do we ever really truly know ourself? Maybe not. It's like when I do the transformational work, the healing, the trauma, the wound work, the shadow work, the inner child blueprint, the unconscious pattern, when we work through that with my clients, gets a point like, oh my gosh, they feel like a new human being. And I said to him, you're just coming back to who you really were. Yeah, before all the scribbles, you know, and and I think this is the big defining thing that determines whether you're going to do that or not. A successful captain can only make the journey to the end with flow when they when he knows his ship. Right. And what I mean by that is like, you got to know the intricacies, you got to work through it and be familiar with it. And this is where I look at it as ownership, like we got to own a ship, right, in order to have a successful journey. And so most people don't make it their business to audit themselves, they don't make it their business to actually get to know who they really are. Like what, like, I'm okay with my weaknesses, I don't make that a reinforcement of feeling not good enough. I look at it as if I want to feel good enough, I get to look at the weaknesses, and I get to pair with them and get in and face off with it and go, I know you've been here for a while, but we're not going to do this anymore. [Speaker 3] (17:04 - 17:04) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (17:04 - 18:09) So it's the relationship with self. People are very scared to have that relationship with themselves, because they don't feel worthy of having a powerful relationship with themselves. You know, and it's interesting, because I see it masked a lot in a self development space. I don't know if you guys noticed, but like, it's kind of like the spiritual leader that's like the guru, but then they become so ego driven. And they're masking it with like, I'm egoless, but it's like, no, that in itself is ego. Right. So some people are trying to put on this like, I love you know, it's so so so so self, it's self love so much to the point, where then you come out of it, and it's an overcompensation. So my focus with my clients, and even this might be my journey myself is like coming back to that center. How do we come somewhere in the middle? And I don't think we're ever fully in the middle. I think we'd like to think that we are we may have brief moments of feeling that the goal is to recalibrate and come back in. And I think the more you practice ownership, the better you become at recalibrating over and over again, until it just becomes natural to know where that center point is. [Speaker 2] (18:10 - 18:34) Yeah, man. We visit the middle from time to time to check and then we're going on that on the journey. It's the lemniscate, which is the infinity symbol. And this ancient symbology tells us a lot. This is actually our primordial nature that we're constantly moving through, you know, the infinity symbol, but we visit, we visit the middle, we check ourselves, we check, we calibrate briefly. And we continue on the journey. It's just it's a brief visitations, man. That's all it is. [Speaker 1] (18:35 - 18:52) Yeah, you don't want to be sitting in there trying to recalibrate for too long, though. Near the middle or just stay there like and then it's funny, man. Life is funny. It's a dance. It seriously is a dance. I don't think I ever want to be fully there. It's like the question is, where's there? [Speaker 3] (18:52 - 18:53) Yeah, where's there? Exactly. [Speaker 1] (18:53 - 20:00) I asked people this when they're like, I'm not there. I'm like, well, where's there? Like, let's define it. And does it make sense? Or is it overcompensation? Or are you coming from lack? Yeah, and this is the state of the world right now. We're in the lower brackets. And you see what's happening with this fear and this propaganda that's being pumped. They're trying to drive us down into shame and guilt. They're trying to drive us down into apathy. They're trying to drive us down into fear, hate, blame, all these areas, you're not going to take ownership in that space if you stay there. So you're not empowered, you're disempowered, which is exactly what these upper entities, if you want to call them that doesn't mean that they're higher than it just means that they're established themselves and called that. And that's the frame they hold. And they want you to be in a submissive state because you're easier to be controlled there. They don't like people like us. They don't like entrepreneurial minded people that put freedom before safety. When times get tough. Now look at the Spartans. They put freedom before safety. You know, it's like they weren't going to let someone just come in and roll on them. You know, you're Greek. [Speaker 3] (20:01 - 20:01) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (20:01 - 21:18) And you know, like the Greeks, damn, you know, that with a, that with a third empire, they conquered me to Persia, you know, and Alexander the Great, what did he died at like, what, 23 years old or 24? Like he was young. He was young. Yeah. Yeah, he just he needed he needed to do some work with with Tony Robbins or something, you know, like he needed a he needed to cast a new vision and get that new mountain to conquer. He felt like he already conquered it and he drank himself to death. There was all these different theories of what happened. But, you know, we look at that and we just think like, there's a lot that can be achieved in a small amount of time. He channeled it into conquering, but in a way where it was based off the intention of needing to dominate and needing that power. But it's like, we're in a world now where that's not necessary for us. But we have a sphere we get to operate in. And why not? Why not play it out best? Why not challenge ourselves to see how far we can go with this. And, and why not look at this as a challenge to see, all right, I'm being tested and I'm being constantly shot at to try and drag myself down to lower frequencies. How do I stay above? Our goal is to stay above the line. And we get to lead above the line. And a lot of people aren't missing it. They're getting dragged so deep below the line, they don't know they're below the line. Yeah, they just aren't. [Speaker 3] (21:19 - 21:33) What do you think are the main things that make people realize they're not where they're at, like that keep them from, from living their best life that keep them living this fear, shame and guilt and that makes them that makes them easy to be propagandized? Like, what do you think are the main things? [Speaker 1] (21:37 - 24:33) You know, we, we when I say we, like you and I, and if you're listening right now, you've been an entrepreneurial minded person for a while, you've, you've implemented things, you've built your business, you've been in the practice for a while. It comes back to ownership, it absolutely does comes back to ownership. You know, I'm finding I'm not saying I don't want to generalize. But what I am finding is, I'm finding this, there's typically a few classes of people in society, there's four, actually, there's four classes. And it's really interesting, because I want to really understand the psychology of this, let's like kind of work this out together. Your four classes of people in society right now that are not taking the shot, generally, the majority of them aren't. The first one are high school dropouts. That's interesting, right? A lot of people that didn't complete high school have gone off, maybe done a trade or whatever they've done. They, they are more resistant to the shot. The second class is the entrepreneurs, entrepreneurial minded, they've learned to carve their own path to create their own freedoms. The third one is those with a PhD. Very resistant, which is interesting, because they keep like you from all the stuff you see on the news in the media, you'd think that those with PhDs would be the ones that are all taking it on board because you keep hearing doctors doing doesn't mean that's it. Those are the PhD have practice exploring both sides of the coin, they dig very deep into their research, they have to weigh it up and generate a case quite often in their studies. So they're doing that. And they're going this doesn't add up, I'm going to wait on this one. Right. And they're taught not to be irrational. They're taught to lay it all out and square it all up. And then what we have is the fourth bracket, which is those that are more spiritually in practice. They've maybe at some point looked into alternative methods. They tend to be more anti establishment as well. You know, so when we see these four groups, I'm seeing this and if we pair it all together, one is not connecting with the indoctrination, that's the high school dropout. Maybe maybe a little bit of a criminal past, maybe a little bit of a rebellious nature. Okay, fair enough. Right. The the second class that I mentioned entrepreneurs, we've we've learned to come outside of what society expects and create something can you and we're used to ridicule, we're used to having to keep going, whether there's failures or mistakes, or whatever it is, the lessons we get to learn, we grab and hold and we keep building from that. The PhDs, like I said, already mentioned what they do right, wait up. And the last bracket, spiritual, if we look at those elements, and we combine them all together, leadership right now, in order for us to really thrive is going to require from us to integrate all four of those major points, if you want to be an ultimate leader in this space and time. Because they're all the things that oppose the establishment for good reason. [Speaker 2] (24:33 - 24:34) Yeah, right. [Speaker 1] (24:35 - 27:16) And I see and like some people have a little bit of it in it, but they haven't owned it. That's what I'm saying is like they haven't owned it. They've like being part of a system. They've been deep in relying on the medical, maybe a reference point or evidences that their family members have died from what they were told is COVID. So they're like, Oh, crap, I've seen this person. And my friend over here says that person passed, and it starts to weigh up and you go, well, maybe this thing is true. And then they start forgetting who they are. And they start not trusting their God given immune system. You know, they stop trusting their sense of knowing that they can get on top of this and make preventative measures. They start watching a little bit too much of the news and media, they start listening to people that they want to listen to, because they haven't gone to do the due diligence themselves. So they're trying to get that information from someone else. This is what I keep saying to people be sovereign, like be in the practice of being sovereign, like we were doing it before. That's why we don't fall for this charade. Yeah, a little do people know that this thing is literally on a tissue right now, like there's not much holding it. It feels like there's a lot holding it for people that are like on the inside of the system, but it's on a frickin tissue paper. And if we just stand up and say we ain't doing this anymore, this is BS. And we stop comply it this tissue will wet and and it will fall through. Like people don't know how close we are to it. We're very close. But it's going to take a lot more of us like if we go into another 10% more people 20% it starts getting louder. And they start they start buckling like the reason why there's a window and there's a lot of pressure is because they know that their time is wearing thin. There's only so much rope and evil because that's what it is is evil. Let's let's just call a spade a spade. It always likes to pull it right to the end of the rope before it hangs itself. Always and it can't help it. It has to go as far as it can to the it ends up hanging itself in the end of it all. Good wins, love wins, truth wins, liberty wins, always. And so those that haven't practiced ownership, that's your first challenge is to get into ownership. The second thing is get ready for a bumpy ride. The pressure will increase. It will get bumpy. It's like turbulence. Before we smooth sail, you know, it's going to be like that. And, you know, you will I know you guys have got this on your podcast jealousy what you post often as well, like we're raising the the truth and we're sharing it there. We're challenging getting people to think right, like, let my people think if they can just think like critically think not fear, but think right the two different things and we can make a huge impact. [Speaker 2] (27:17 - 29:17) Yeah, dude. Absolutely, man. No doubt about that. I mean, part of part of the bumpy ride coming up is learning how to navigate now, you know, I mean, and by by flexing that discernment by starting to figure out your own shit in the current period is going to equip you much better to continue to be a better navigator of your own ship of your own vessel moving forward. I think what's really important also is the people is for people to recognize what is on the flip side of this like the entire purpose of socialist and communist propaganda is demoralization. It is literally created to demoralize you and I've got this quote here from Theodore Dalrymple. He says in my study of communist societies. I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince not to inform but to humiliate and therefore the less it corresponded to reality the better when people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves they lose once and for all their sense of their sense of probity to a sense to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself one's standing to resist anything is thus eroded and even destroyed a society of emasculated liars is easy to control I think if you examine political correctness it has the same effect and is intended to so literally it's meant to be as inverted as possible it is designed to humiliate you and the moment that you align yourself with this obvious lie then you can no longer trust yourself and if you can no longer trust yourself what kind of navigator are you going to be so for me the process of of positioning ourselves accordingly and learning to flow during this period is doing small things to trust yourself you know so then you can be the leader of your own ship you can be the master yeah now I feel that that's a powerful [Speaker 1] (29:17 - 35:24) quote I love it I love it it encapsulates what's going on right now yeah you know I'm a believer in God and one of the big things that I noticed is a theme in the scriptures is there's this constant push like where evil is trying to get those that are believers in this connection with God trying to get these people into this doubt right so like this constant like doubt yourself and doubt your creator and I believe that lies believed breaks the circle of love and trust the ultimate thing that we we get to hold that gives us the most hope and faith is having that trust that God has got us right and that we're there with God in that co-creation and like I see what's going on right now and if you have a look at like I studied agenda 2030 I've read Klaus Schwab's book the great reset it's boring it's a terrible book but it's also written in a way where I can see that people that that don't think of like creating a world where we have God given principles and we we live by morals and standards that would be conducive for us to be able to actually look and honor the fact that we have a creator and that we're in this incredible original design that's constantly renewing we have the opportunity to actually look at life as a as a thing that we get to be grateful for and not have to look at government as God then I can see how people that take God out of the picture how they can see this so-called utopia that they want to create with their agenda 2030 would be a good thing yeah but like if we peel it back we don't we can't trust them we can't like when you see the things that they've said that they're going to be doing they've relabeled evil intentions like when you look at this like you know a climate crisis like it used to be called climate change it's like okay climate change is it's changing we've got to look after the environment when God gave us dominion over the earth he gave us great responsibility but he always put us first before the actual environment honoring the fact that we get to be growing people that make decisions knowing when we're looking after things to be responsible or not so we become a very irresponsible society so I can see how they can utilize climate climate change but what they do is they go and repackage and call it climate emergency or climate crisis now they start putting it on death certificates you got to start asking questions when this comes into play it's like what happens then are they going to lock the world down every whatever days because they say the climate has to take a break and now they're like slowing down our business and impeding on us to create more control do they bring in a sunday law every sunday you can't work you've got it like you know like this these stuff have been talked about within the papacy within the vatican and being talked about within the un and these these meetings at in dabo it's like all this stuff's been talked about it's written you can see this online it's not a it's not like a conspiracy right so we look at this and then you got someone like bill gates who everyone knows is not even a doctor let alone a scientist or a virologist but he's out there dishing out advice and you know you see see the cruel intentions behind this guy like giggling and laughing as he says wait till the next wave you know it's like no normal person would behave like that you know that's that's the behavior of a psychopath you see him putting out his book about climate crisis so it's like follow this now look at it where's the money going what are they trying to push green deals they're trying to move everything to this next space we've got the the vacs okay that's going on we know what's in that stuff is poison and we look at what they're moving next let's get everyone on the same page if we can funnel the world into a system where they're all on the same page because you're definitely selfish if you disagree with climate emergency you're a selfish son of a gun because you should be putting the earth how dare you remember how the little greta thunberg how dare you yeah you know she's like shaming it's this ah she triggers me so much but i hear you you guys know right you guys know and it's like it's such a shame because it's such a it's such an important thing that we do look after the environment but when it starts getting bastardized and distorted and used as a manipulative tool to funnel everybody like a bunch of leads into a system this is where it starts to get out of hand and this is what's happening so you know we can't personally control that that's the agenda that they want and they have a lot of money behind it and they've pulled strings and been thinking about this probably before we were even born but what we can control is how we show up in those moments when this when this is projected onto us do we stand ground and say i see what's going on here and this is what i stand for we've got to have our principles and people people are now being tested and it's happening i'm seeing it people are realizing they didn't set their standards they don't have boundaries they don't have principles they don't know what their alignment is the reason why i say no to the jab it's not to be macho i don't post stuff on social media to be mr macho it's got nothing to do with that it's because it's out of alignment with me it's because it's incongruent and it's out of integrity if i go along with this this manipulative agenda and i think if people found where that center point is with them maybe for some people they think it's fine okay cool go do your thing i honor that that's cool you do your thing but don't come crying on my shoulder when you find out that was the wrong decision because i already gave you the heads up that gets to be your wisdom now yeah so yeah we're we're getting tested on a level we haven't before i'm coaching a whole group of people right now a lot of them from australia they're going through their trials and tribulations in sydney and melbourne and i'll say to them i go this you're in the freaking dojo like you could have come and joined my coaching two years ago and it wouldn't have the same impact as it does now because now you're actually getting to implement it live in the flesh second by second real time like it's not like oh i learned this thing and then i'll go and apply it when a challenge shows up i'm like you're in the midst of a challenge use it to build and implement and integrate [Speaker 2] (35:24 - 35:32) straight away it's a gift definitely it is a gift man and it's it's gonna be fired up guys [Speaker 3] (35:32 - 36:22) i love it man i'm just kicking back here like listening right now we've dropped a few questions and let you do your thing man i'm fired up too man i'm fired up like this is what it's about man it's about doing the work doing the inner work and and getting into that center place where it's like what you said that's just not congruent with me i'm living my life i'm a sovereign man i'm a sovereign human being you can make whatever choices you want to make but i'm not making that similar choice you know and you've mentioned god earlier is like for so long they've been trying to disconnect people from god from a deep sense of spirituality and connection with the divine because again if they're if the if god isn't there the state the government becomes the new god you know and then people look to that for the answers as opposed to something deep within and deep connection with with their creator like you said yeah and i mean at the end of the day [Speaker 2] (36:22 - 37:50) the internal compromises that we've made within ourself are going to be equivalent to the external compromises that we make because what they're playing on is the fact that you aren't in integrity with yourself that you have enslaved your own inner demons right and the kind of person that's going to believe um claire claire schwab and trust these establishments and these books in this state is the person that doesn't trust themselves and because they doesn't trust themselves they have to have someone else tell them what's moral they have to have someone tell them else tell them tell them what they should value because they don't know what they value within themselves so all of a sudden now we're standing up for what anyone tells us is right they you know i mean climate change climate crisis because we've got nothing good that we've seen within ourselves to represent we have to represent the pseudo good the pseudo value the pseudo morality that's handed to us and this is why i'm such a big proponent of the inner work because it allows you to be censored it puts you in a position where you're less you're less able to be hypnotized by you know i mean all these tyrants that are trying to dictate to you what it is to be you whether it is to be human what it is to be inherently divine and good and and this whatever this experience is and you said it before we're never stagnant we're not stagnant beings we are a continual unfoldment we're a constant ongoing process and we're constantly learning through all of this um yeah so it's time it's time to learn how to surf because there's those big waves right now man and we're not sitting waiting anymore we're fucking on the waves so [Speaker 3] (37:50 - 38:37) what are you going to do about it yeah and the thing is too man these you know our social engineers these architects of control again you know they understand human psychology to a degree beyond you know that's why we have to know ourselves on the deepest levels because psychopaths sociopaths they they they co-opt your virtue and use it against you yeah you know like oh i want to i want to be a good person you're like i care about my fellow man i i don't want your grandmother to die or whatever the case may be but it's like they use that against you they they co-opt it and they use it against you to follow these agendas that don't really make any rational sense but anyways man i i if you want anything to add but i think this is a good place um to end part one but if you want to add something then go ahead [Speaker 1] (38:39 - 44:26) no i think you've hit on some really good points i think that if we can get ahead of the curve because you've got to remember these guys have planned this whoever these guys are we could it could be a conglomerate of like six thousand people across the board and i don't necessarily think it's just like three people at the top and they're all just doing you know like let's do this ha ha ha mr burns and smithers and like you know somebody else you know i don't think it's like that but i definitely do think that some people in some foundations and organizations get their jollies off uh dominating and owning more of the uh the land you know the old saying is whoever owns the most land rules the kingdom and you have established powers that have been around from you know thousands of years ago you guys already know one of them was to be rome you know rome never went away it never disappeared rome's still in power like rome pulls strings right at the top like you guys think it's bill gates he's got nothing on rome the vatican the papacy the power that's oh yeah cool the 300 and something 60 something trillion dollars they hold like rothschilds and rockefellers are like little like yeah these are little little foot soldiers compared to them you know what i mean so we're gonna look at the bigger picture from a prophetic standpoint when i look at the scriptures i study a lot of the eschatology which is a you know last days end times um prophecy and it's interesting actually um uh john the revelator who wrote revelation uh he was on the island of patmos as well which is out there you know in greece so so yeah he he brought this incredible revelation that christ had given him and and when you look at it unfolding you know people refer a lot to like oh mark of the beast you know if you receive the mark of the beast uh you won't be able to buy or sell unless you get the mark and all this you know so people hear all this and they're like oh maybe some prophecy is coming true and i'm gonna tell you 88 of biblical prophecy has already happened over the last uh six thousand years close to six thousand years and so when you see what it has in revelation it starts to get really interesting because it's still the same theme as everything that's been going on for the last four thousand that we know three and a half thousand that we know because you look at the empires of babylon you know babylon was very much about idol worship you know it was very much pagan very much about um you know having their own identity as an empire to rule over the world then you know daniel has this prophecy that only he was able to share they had mystics and wizards and all sorts of people that came to the king nebuchadnezzar to try and tell this prophecy and they couldn't and he killed them it's like if you couldn't work out what the dream was about he'd kill you off and then here comes daniel who stands before him and says when you would typically say long live the king to a king if you said anything else it would be like beheaded right for this behavior he stands before the king and says i saw the dream and here's what god sent me to share with you is that there will be a lesser empire that will come and destroy your empire and take over and become the established empire in this world and like to tell a king that is a big no-no but he did but because it was in alignment with what he was called to do in his mission and you know he went through his experiences as you see you know challenged shadrach meshach abednego were challenged to stand before the statue and they wouldn't they wouldn't bow down so they were sent to the fire when they were in the fire they were protected it's the same thing that's happening to us right now we're being told to bow down to this beast system in babylon babylon means babel babel is confusion we're being brought into confusion right now and we're told to to worship a system you going and agreeing to it over and over again like people want to know what the mark of the beast is there may be some digital print there may be you know a shot that has a fluorescent they call it luciferous fluorescent type chemicals in it that they can track it could be that that comes into implementation but that's not actually the mark of the beast that christ warns us about what he warns us about is he's concerned about our soul it goes deeper than the surface it's not a print on the hand or a scratch on here it's it's what you worship in your mind that's the forehead and what you agree to with your hand it's coming into alliance with the system and what we have before us is the beast system there's a precursor that's being set up right now it's early stages of this beast system to try and establish some form of power it's done it throughout history from babylon to metapersia when metapersia was then destroyed by the greeks the greeks then were taken over by the romans this tiny little village in italy that blew up and freaking took over damien most of the world and we see this playing through we're still in the days now we're in the last days we're in the days of divided nations where it will never come together there won't be a one world government no matter how much they push for it god says there won't be that it won't be fully established for full control it won't get there right and so we see see this trying this attempt and the enemy of our soul is always trying to speed up or slow down god's plan and he's never been able to do it you know so that i hold on to this faith that as much as there may be times of darkness there may be times of struggle and it feels like there's doubt there's also good that rises with it too there's a revival there's an awakening that happens as well and we may have to be prepared to be in a split society a splintered society for a little while while this thing plays out we just don't know everything yet but what we do know is we get to choose where we live emotionally each and every day and where we live spiritually and who we're committed to and what system we decide to be in alliance with or not [Speaker 2] (44:28 - 44:46) mike drop right there man guys thank you so much for listening to the first half of this episode with joel brown dropping the wisdom i'm loving this conversation i'm loving where it's going um on the second side for our members if you want to jump on joel's going to teach us how to make five million dollars in the two and a half weeks so please subscribe to our patreon community [Speaker 3] (44:50 - 45:10) thanks for listening guys thank you all right cool we'll catch you this time all right to our members welcome back we're here with joel brown this is dropping some wisdom in part one uh joel you know you talked a little bit about the potential of us being in this split society as things kind of unfold and so i'm just curious to see what you think that split society [Speaker 1] (45:10 - 55:36) is going to look like yeah man i i think just to like future cast this and see what's happening uh we can go based off what we've seen happen in the past we can even go back in history and see what happened at times like you know nazi germany french revolution when the black plague kicked in uh you can even look even further back at the dominance of of rome over empires and the fractures that were happening then not much changes even now like when you look at it it's still empire trying to take hold uh every other empire that was before when you look at the great empires such as babylon you look at meda persia then you look at greece and you look at rome every other empire before rome came in was very much like this they were in this passive war towards god they weren't really going for god's people as such they were all more about power but what's happening now is we moved we moved into rome we started to see this waging a war more directly on god and it was only after christ was crucified and resurrected and brought the eternal promise it was like a new covenant right and this new new promise to us of the eternal and we see this and and what happens is you start to see this like religioso type power that takes hold and uses church and state power for control we never had that with uh with rome rome ruled with an iron fist when it came to wars right and conquering land but it started to become more of a direct spiritual attack and we're still seeing it today it's like this whole we keep hearing these words holy war it's like a holy war right when we we say you know the middle east came in and attacked america but it's a holy war right when you see the persecution of believers you have you have this this catholic means universal right and by the way i'm not i'm not slamming anybody that subscribes to that as their belief it's the system that i'm actually addressing here uh it gets dangerous when you have church and state power come together when people ask me joe are you religious no i'm not matter of fact i have the biggest issue with with with religion and i have the most frustrating talks with christians and i'm a believer of christ and it's because legalities and the church institution gets in the way and you're going to see this this is my i guess in a way like a a preview of what's to come in time it may not happen in our lifetime we don't know yet what the time scale is but as we see this like more of a leftist type liberal very old democratic type thing flowing out right now it'll get to a point where people get over that it's like it's not working very well it's chaotic we don't like this so what then comes in is this pendulum swing it happens all the time there's been a vacuum that's created because of the plannedemic and then there's this we need this to come in so it becomes this leftist like let's get biden in let's let's select him not even elect him because he they cheated to get in i'm 100 on that like i don't care what anyone thinks we see it and and then the puppet masters come in and start pulling the strings and and then so people get so sick of that because it's too chaotic and it's unstable that they are crying out for something else that something else is a very extreme right wing conservative arm swings in and the issue that we have at hand at stake whether it's in our lifetime or not is this conservative uh religioso political type power that comes together some people that are experiencing what's going on with this more of this left uh godless everything leads with science you can manipulate science if you want i think it's a great vehicle it just doesn't have compassion in it this eugenicist type like mindset that's going to go on but people won't want that after a while it just is too destructive so they'll want the other but the other is too extreme as well so when we look at this it ends up being this almost like this direct battle that starts to come into play more and more it becomes more and more evident that it's not just a battle of flesh and blood it's principalities and power that's in play it's it's good versus evil you guys are getting previews of it right now like how is this the the vaccines the shots have graphene oxide in every single shot we've seen it studied under vials dr robert young a number of universities have done these studies now they found it in japan and they've had to cancel millions of vials they're doing this and they're randomizing it so some people that are getting this shot they don't know whether they're getting a phase one or phase two or phase three phase one is like 80% saline and 20% heavy metals the second phase two is uh like 40 40% saline and 60% metals and the phase three is like 20% saline and 80% metals you don't know which one you're getting it's like playing russian roulette and i get these people that message me all the time oh i had two shots i'm fine it's like yeah cool you're probably lucky you got phase one but if somebody else comes along because they thought that you were good and they get phase three or double or phase three they're done right so this is an evil russian roulette game and it's been established by those in the establishment that have decided to pair with these pharmaceutical companies big pharma and and these corporations and these governments are invested they lobby like you see the the connections they have it's insane to see how they're all making their money off this and they're draining it from society and they're also depopulating society and they keep covering it up right so we see this coming to play and there's definitely you can't deny that something in your spirit and your soul doesn't feel right there's a darkness that's looming and when we put heavy metals like graphene oxide if you guys actually understand what graphene graphene is stronger than steel it is flexible and it's light like it's incredible material some people still can't even get their head around it's nuts but what i do know about it is it oxidizes the red blood cells and i've shown images of this you know i've had dr young show what happens it crystallizes the red blood cells to the point where if you have crystallized blood cells going into your brain it creates neurological disorders i'm talking like early 20s uh you know mid 20s early 30s coming in with alzheimer's and dementia already like that's not good i know what word you guys are in but that's not good from where i'm from right and then you know you have lack of oxygen going to the heart someone gets a shot and then you know a month later going for a run and they collapse and why did they collapse oh it must be cv19 right they just they can throw that into anything you could fart and someone said it's a it's a covid like symptom it's just it's ridiculous what they're doing now you know so and we're being played and what i do know is that god doesn't act like that that's not his behavior god's behavior if you want to know like when you look at the model of christ right whether you believe in it not let's just look at him as a model as a figure what he stood for if you see the theme of how he expressed his character in description truth love and liberty he stood for all of those three things and he did it consistently and he kept calling us to those standards he's like come into this walk he called it the way as a matter of fact he didn't even call them christians the followers the romans called them christians little christ he just said this is the way and so when we look at this like well if i live my life in truth love and liberty would i easily be able to discern them when anything's outside of those brackets probably so and i'm not saying you have to be allowed to discern it i think that there's something in your heart and a wanting to be in your truth love and liberty that brings you to greater discernment and so if we see that there's this evil that's in play now you understand that it's it's this waging war spiritually on god but using humanity to get to him right the enemy ourselves pissed he doesn't like us because we have the promise of the eternal we have the option with free will to choose to come into that grace with god right we we have the opportunity to stand in truth love and liberty we have all that we're more free than you think the cards are so heavily stacked in our favor it's ridiculous and so the societal programs and structures are trying to consistently keep us in like the matrix if you want to call it that in this dark fallen kingdom to acquire your soul and when you look at the effects of graphene oxide it's sucking the oxygen out it's directly attacking god's original design that's in your system the mrna is altering your dna is altering your genes right the aluminium oxide is oxidizing your blood your blood if it's acidic is going to be way more effective our job is to alkaline come back to nature god's already given us everything the greens the chlorophyll the avocado the the lemon and the lime water the watermelon like all those things are high ph they alkaline our system so we're less affected by this oxidation it's already in nature man comes along that's godless and chooses to work with an evil influence sometimes not even knowing that they're under evil influence because they're so far away from their choice of god that they start acting out in a greedy greedy selfish manner and if you see the guys that are trying to run it right now look at look at them they're godless they believe in eugenicists eugenics they about their money and about their fame and about their power and control god doesn't express those values he doesn't need to express those values right and he's calling us into sentence the more we come into the sentence of truth love and liberty we start to notice this is out of alignment and so this is why i have a problem with a lot even believers i'm calling believers out right now like i got pastors that are telling their congregation you can't come to church unless you have the shot i'm like are you out of your freaking mind like what a waste of the last 30 years or 40 years of your supposedly being in relationship with god when you're calling your people to have to go and get something that's going to put darkness in their system yeah you know like there's a lot of misleading that's happening right now i think people need to lovingly get their ass kicked because they're not stepping you know i i feel like it's [Speaker 3] (55:36 - 56:25) like spirituality on paper but not in practice you know and i mean experiencing the same thing you know i work in the the health alternative health world as a practitioner of the healing arts and like we have chiropractors and and and chinese medicine doctors that are sending out newsletters to their to their clients telling them to get to the jab and so here they are they're they're they're you know educators you know they're they're practitioners of these ancient arts and yet they're falling for the propaganda you know they're falling they're falling for their fear and so it's like if people ask me well how could they be doing this it's like well there's one thing to be uh to really feel it in your heart and to really know it and versus just oh i have a letter after my name or i've had certain types of training so it's completely different so it doesn't surprise me that there's there's religious people out there you know that are doing the same [Speaker 1] (56:25 - 1:00:39) thing yeah yeah look when when people ask me if i'm religious to say no i'm in relationship with god that's what everything that christ even told us anyways is that he's like come into a relationship it's so different because it's not it's not an institution we can't hang it up on man it's like a man told you to do this it's like that's like i'd rather go to god you know what i'm saying like i'd rather have my spiritual connection in my seeking to understand with that wisdom the creator wisdom not some man that's you know he this man who tells you whatever could have layers of trauma and they're overcompensating and it could be all eager and you're like oh that's truth yeah you know so yeah i think i think this whole cancel culture thing that you guys hit on on the um first part of this this interview uh is a form of just silencing people from having a voice and when i look at someone like christ he stood in the face of the religious he stood in front of the pharisees and he says you are like whitewashed tombs it was like one of the most disrespectful thing you could say in that time because it's saying you look good on the outside but you're dead on the inside whitewashed tombs right and this is what's happening is you got so many people that are like whitewashed tombs look good on the outside branding and saying all the things they're doing what's popular christ never was concerned with popular he spoke for truth and that's what you guys are doing when you share what you share and you're speaking up you guys are sharing truth and i honor that i respect that i see that you guys that's why i jumped on this podcast i'm like yeah let's do it you guys are about it and you know we can get the truth and the liberty down liberty is freedom it's like we'll fight for that we'll go the thing that we get to master which is a constant practice for me and it's one of the toughest is love remember i said truth love and liberty love is tough man it's tough and it's not going to naturally come from us if we keep hanging ourselves up on institutions and keep hanging ourselves up on having to rely on systems because we'll get pulled and swayed which way wherever like i want to find my love in my creator who taught me love from the beginning of time you know and so that's where we get to come from and it's tough because i used to call at the start of this pandemic i kicked off like 20 months back i was going for it like i already saw it you know and i lost so many followers at the start like like over 10 000 something followers i would have lost in the first like three months of speaking up because people like joel you're insensitive and and to be honest i was calling people sheep too you know i wasn't like directly like raising my voice and tone to attack at people i wasn't doing that i was posting some things here and there that alluded to you know sheep and law and and i just made it a commitment i said i'm not going to call people sheep anymore because i don't want to be that guy that people after they've made their decision feels like they can't come back and have that conversation with me like now i have people left right and center that come to me every day without a doubt like probably even right now i've got flooded inbox hey joel do you have a detox protocol to get this vaccine out like people are innate i had a woman reach out to me suicidal she's feeling suicidal and i asked her what's going on like drop give it to me she's like you know i didn't know where else to go you know i saw that you were sharing detox protocols that you work with i've been working with doctors and getting these like protocol we've been tweaking it's amazing and my doctor here in bali is she's been able to detox hundreds and hundreds of people from the shots now you've got to be detoxing for the rest of your life by the way because this you keep it management because it's doing damage it's doing permanent damage in people and it's lodging into organs and fatty tissues it's nuts but you know i had this conversation with this woman she's in new york city and she said to me this symptoms that she's experiencing after having the shot three weeks ago her second one she said it feels like the room's spinning and she said when i lay down my throat feels like it's closing over and she says i feel darkness and heaviness over me all the time now and she says i i feel like i'm disconnected from myself something's going on something's going on from this shot you know what i mean and this isn't the first time i heard it i've heard it from many people now that they feel like they've lost their identity something's happened within them there's an attack on the god gene that's in the body it's been designed to do this and so this [Speaker 2] (1:00:39 - 1:01:14) becomes 100 years ago man 100 years ago rudolf steiner said there will be a vaccine to cast the spirit out from from man like it's it's insane dude it's nuts it's not and what the scariest part is that we just don't even know the extent of it yet this is just the beginning man this is it's so early and yeah dude it's it's freaky i'd love to know like a bit more in your in your experience like what what are people really experiencing from the shot can you go a bit [Speaker 1] (1:01:14 - 1:08:19) deeper on that yeah so you know i'm not a doctor so i'm just going to preface that that's important to know um but i i've been speaking with a lot of doctors and i've been looking at blood cell analysis with them i've been interviewing them they've been presenting uh evidence visual evidence you know like you get to a point where you see it you can't see it anymore and it's this consistent visual evidence that keeps showing up with everyone that keeps getting these shots and like i shared there's heavy heavy metal particles they're even putting graphene oxide in the flu shot so people that had a flu shot like a year or two ago they've got graphene oxide in their system you know my doctor that's that's working out here in indonesia she said to me she said joe i've been doing blood cell analysis which is when you put the blood under a microscope and you can have a look right and dr young has like million dollar lab equipment for electron microscopy you can look even deeper into cells and see what's actually happening and take footage of it and they both have said you know like dr young has been operating for like 40 something years in his medical field he's one of the lead scientists and naturopaths in the world he's cured tens of thousands of people from cancer this guy knows what he's doing and big farmer hates him they've tried to throw him under the bus a couple times tried to sue him he pleaded not guilty they try to hang him on anything they can't they can't stop him you know because he's speaking truth and he's out there doing his thing and my doctor here in indonesia has been doing her work for 24 years and she said joe over the last 24 years i've been looking under a microscope at blood and work with tens of thousands she said only in the last 15 to 16 months have i started to see graphene oxide in the blood mostly in those that are vaccinated a little bit in those that haven't been vaxxed yet so the question is like where's that little bit coming from right because this is the thing that people get really stuck on it's going to sound sci-fi guys ready for this it's going to sound a little sci-fi ish already bro yeah you'd have to hear the interview with dr young that i did you can check it out in my telegram group just go to agents of change is the name of the group but just type in you know like t.me change agents that's the telegram group and you see it there and i've got two parts we had to put it on rumble because it's going to get deleted off everything else but he shows this visual evidence and he says what happens is we have chem trails and they keep they keep saying it's a conspiracy you can't keep calling everything conspiracy when it consistently keeps showing up like it's kind of like when i see people smoking and i'm like can i see it and i'm like that's that used to happen in the 1990s are people still doing that now like when people call people conspiracy theories i'm like do people still call people that now there's been way too many conspiracy theories come true right some conspiracy theories are pretty wacky so i get it but most are actually coming true which is which is nuts but we look at these chem trails and they actually can they've put cups out in in the open where there's chem trailing happening and chem trails as the planes are flying overhead and they dump out poisonous clouds and fumes behind them and as you see these heavy metal particles or you have um borium you have aluminum oxide you have uh now graphene oxide which they never used to dump they're dumping it now uh and you have a number of other ones too i won't bore you with what they are but all of these metals are poisonous there's even arsenic in some that they've found from from the chemtrailing and they they lead to upper respiratory issues now the news and media is starting to make trying they're trying to normalize it like it's a normal fun thing that's happening in the world and they did it in australia recently sydney and melbourne were copying it they had up and down up and down on the coast they were dumping chem trails non-stop they were doing like zigzags and cross patterns in the sky i've got video evidence of this con trails which is just condensation trails are just like a thin line and it disappears very quickly after the planes taken off you know like you see it for a little bit and then it just disappears chemtrails stay in the sky and they get fluffy like clouds and they come lower to the atmosphere and then you probably notice like i noticed when i when it was happening here in bali when i got sick i got like a covid like symptoms and um thought i had cv19 i was like oh i thought this thing wasn't legit but now i feel that it was my symptoms reaction to the atmosphere when they were doing chemtrailing and i walked down to the beach and my dogs and i see the car park where next to the beach where it's usually nice and clear it was all foggy and on the windows was all like sticky surface and on my motorbike seat my black motorbike seat there's all these little like white ash particles only on the days they do chemtrailing so you guys think this stuff doesn't affect you it does we breathe in this crap right so so you get these upper respiratory issues that start to come into play people freak out and go i've got covid they go and get tested on a shitty little stick called a pcr which has graphene oxide on the swab test and then they wear their face nappies their masks which has graphene oxide here so all what we're doing is we're not only getting graphene oxide in our system we're also covering our mouth and our nose and breathing back in carbon dioxide see how this is a massive oxide intoxication that's happening right now in the world and they're found in san pellegrino water bottles they've they've actually put a magnet here and they're able to run it up and down and there's particles that will come up and down uh on the uh on the side of the bottle when they add an ingredient into to measure just to break up the particles you have another like a normal water bottle and then it wasn't happening they found graphene oxide particles uh in san pellegrino water bottles and people yeah it's nuts man it's nuts they've found it they've done it multiple times and shown it's not just come from one so this is something you guys got to understand is like these things i'm sharing with you is not just from one doctor it's not just from one university it's it's very important to know that it's coming from many sources and it's amplifying like crazy there's way more doctors now because the thing is like dr young he has million dollar lab equipment a lot of other like your normal gp doesn't look for this stuff they're just told from the higher ups you've got to get everyone the vaccine and then they've thought like well over my last 30 40 years in in you know medicine uh vaccines are being pretty fine so they're just relating it to what they've experienced i get that i get why they're administering it but this one's different it's not a vaccine it's an experimental lethal injection that it will slowly kill us it's like think about this guys it's like a slow release grenade going off in the body and shrapnel pieces flying around in the body parasites that are in the body leeching off your god-given cells like and it's altering [Speaker 3] (1:08:19 - 1:08:25) your dna it's like why would you want this in your system like i don't want it dude fuck that shit [Speaker 1] (1:08:27 - 1:12:23) it's an absolute death wish man so when when i get haters that come at me oh i've taken it yeah well they say you're crazy some guy said to me because i shot it shot you know on instagram live and i went like this to my arm i was pointing to my arm you know like if you get the shot and i'm saying it because some people when they hear the shot they're just still not engaged to what is going so they're like i'm used gestures and hemet i i've had two people so far say oh this is cult like behavior or like you're trying to program people into your blood i get all sorts of like people saying stuff and i literally i've got to a point where i will see that and i'll think to myself man i feel so sorry for that person like i legit do feel sorry i feel compassion because that person is laughing at this now they think it's a joke they think we're a joke but they're coming into a rude awakening very soon you know everyone's immune system is different people have different detox processes everyone's ph levels whether they're more alkaline or acidic are all different some people have core mobility so like everyone's experiencing different things also when they randomize the phases of the shots phase one phase two phase three you don't know what you're getting you better hope you don't get a phase three on first and second go like you know what i mean so we don't know but what we do see is what's happening dr ryan cole he's a pathologist in ohio and he said that he's been in the game for like 20 something years he said for the first time in 20 years he said i've seen a 20x increase of cancer patients coming through now and it's connected to the shots most of them have had the shot you know there's going to be massive massive impact on people that have taken the shot now and you can't get some of this stuff out of your system even if you go through the detox protocols not every single bit of it comes out dr young said that what your body does to protect you sometimes if it can't flush something it sends it to the fatty tissues guess where your fatty tissues are in your brain so it's lodging metal particles in your brain you know and and 80 of a lot of these metals if you have a look at what mrna does it like it's crazy it has sequence programming and it's guiding and directing these magnetic particles to go to organs in the body do you know how nuts that is like they can literally send it to the reproductive organs they found that almost 80 depending on the person in the whatever the volume up to 80 goes to the reproductive organs that leads to what do you think that leads to guys infertility yeah sterilization right so like i'm thinking to myself and this is prophetic man god warns christ warns he cried he warned he said in last days he says um mothers and fathers will turn on sons and daughters sons and daughters will turn on mothers and father and i was like that's kind of crazy and he says there'll be days of lawlessness we're looking at the law right now and the laws the laws don't mean crap it's like rules have come in and overtaken laws it's weird right it's like you can always break rules but not laws now they're just mandating rules all the time and when i thought about like the family unit getting broken down and joe i know you got kids too right you know kids it's like imagine your family you know breaking down you become weak in your mindset and in your soul in your spirit as a man you're a leader of the family you're like holding it together provider and protector but imagine you've gone and told your kids you got to get the shot you got to get the shot you got to get it it's the right thing to do for the greater good as they keep using as a manipulative tool and then the kids go and get the shot five years down the line 10 years down the line 15 years down the line whenever it is when they're old enough they turn around and go i can't have kids now because you told me to get the shot you can imagine how much this would separate and divide families in in the coming time in the next decade or more like it's just going to be [Speaker 2] (1:12:23 - 1:12:40) i know parents who have gaslighted their kids into getting the shot i know kids that i say kids but i'm talking about adults that don't want to get the shot and parents have literally been able to coerce them into into getting the shot um it's yeah it's crazy too [Speaker 3] (1:12:40 - 1:13:42) you know you have these young teenagers or young millennials you know that are super woke and they're they're shaming their elderly parents into getting getting the jab yeah you know as well so it's happening in both ways so not only is it going to happen in the future when they come back and go hey like i'm 28 30 35 years old and i can't have children but it's happening right now you know so you know this dissolution of the family unit is happening it's continuing and it's it's sad to see and a lot of these people also too you have to understand is that people can't even make connections between they just got the the shot a month ago and got sick you think 5 10 15 years from now these people are gonna be like whoa it's because i got the shot they're gonna be so entrenched in the system on meds you know they got the hook from big pharma it's just gonna be the continuous continuous thing that we see right now you know now they'll be those that might connect the dots but generally speaking people just like i'm sick i i have this thing i don't know why and they won't make the connection to a thing they literally got jabbed inside of them that was an experimental thing that they had no clue what was in it [Speaker 1] (1:13:42 - 1:15:46) with no long-term studies yeah i think the i think the only way that we probably have a and i hate where we've been having to think about this it sucks like it sucks that that's where we're at it's just but this is what it is this is reality i think the only way that that will become super apparent is if the system create had a pendulum swing shift and somebody came in and there was mass exposure of what's actually been happening it could because that could happen in a case too it could start to take more of a lean in another direction and there could be massive exposure to break down the trust in the system too which would if they want to send it in a different direction right and if that happened then it would become apparent where it's like calling out the media there's always going to be people sharing truth which is what i love is the fact that we you know you get to choose whether you're going to be that person or not i think it's important that more people do i'd hope that when they listen to this they'll share the truth even more like just think if you're listening you've like discovered something you're like that's crazy that's messed up this needs to get out there share it yeah some of scared to get bullied scared to get ridiculed well the weight of regret of not sharing is far heavier than somebody disagreeing with you i'm gonna tell you that you know so yeah it'll it'll come out in ways and shapes and some people will live the rest of their life in denial and pretend like something hasn't happened too you're right like i know somebody that had the shot two weeks later all the symptoms of someone that has a shot and i'm like did you take the shot yeah but it's not that i was like okay so you're 32 years old for the 32 years of your life have you ever experienced the symptoms that you just have now no oh what do you think the coincidence is like what do you where do you think you might have got it from what do you think it but they're so in their denial because they don't want to they don't it hurts them so much to think that they made the wrong decision yeah and it reinforces this feeling in people was i'm not smart enough i get it like i get why people want to avoid it but this is why the the pre-work the self-development work is so important the spiritual work is so important beforehand so that people can own their [Speaker 3] (1:15:46 - 1:16:14) stuff it goes back to ownership once again yeah i've had friends and clients who have experienced who are younger who experienced some weird health issue and you know i slowly coming well have you had any um you know medical interventions lately oh have you gotten a flu shot oh yeah i got a flu shot like you know every year or i got it four months ago and it's like well and then they i mean no no no no like no it's not that it's not that okay you know yeah someone just won't make the [Speaker 1] (1:16:14 - 1:18:02) link you know yeah i i think we're in a really important time in history i was sharing on my social because some people were reaching out to me like joel you know what do you think about these people in the self-development space that aren't speaking up and i'll say well look i feel called to do it i don't know if they do maybe they don't maybe it's not feeling like it's their mission but what i do know is people aren't looking for popular anymore when they're trying to work things out they want truth it's so important because they want certainty like what is it what's actually happening here can we work this thing out let's piece it together and we've lived in a society for so long where i look at some of these self-development guys and all they do is just keep copying the same formula if they see somebody post something that did pretty well don't repost the same thing because it gets lots of likes it's like i'm so over that game i couldn't give two craps about that you know it's it's like i'd rather get the things off my chest and connect with people that are actually feeling something because some people have told me i've stopped following this person because i feel like they don't get me anymore i feel like they're pretending like nothing is happening and they're still flaunting their luxurious cars or their it is that they're doing and and not connect like i don't feel seen heard or understood anymore so that's a loss for that person whether they know it or not because now they're not considered a leader and less people will come to them for that support and less people will get support from them because they're just trying to play the game of mr popular or mrs popular so you know we're an important time in history and i challenged my followers you know i'm like yo you're gonna look back at this and and and say like i really freaking stood my ground like this is a time where i did what i said i was gonna do or are you gonna say that no yeah kind of like let other people work this one out and i played it safe you gotta live with that people man it's it's super [Speaker 2] (1:18:02 - 1:18:50) uncomfortable for a lot of people particularly people who have like built their life to be a certain way um and to you mean play out their 10-year plan as we mentioned or whatever it is now all of a sudden there's this there's this glaring blind spot which they refuse to look at because it interrupts exactly what they've envisioned for themselves you mean how they have their ego presents on social media everything they've built around themselves um and so they're refusing to go there you know um and it's a damn shame i mean how many spiritual gurus and whatnot you mean celebrities have we seen in endorse this thing and it's just it's fucking sickening to be honest with you and this is yeah this is where i implore everybody to take responsibility for your own life take responsibility for your own health the age of idols is fucking finished it's [Speaker 1] (1:18:50 - 1:22:42) over man it is yeah yeah i i felt that man hollywood's dead i mean it was already dying but it's dead like it's legit dead um unfortunately people are moving to models like netflix which is still under that agenda rule you know like we talk about the map of consciousness you know have you guys ever seen that map of consciousness i think you're referencing yeah i'll pull it up on a share screen if you want to make me a co-host sure bro i'll show you because it's really important right like a lot of what we're experiencing right now yeah if we haven't healed and haven't moved to forgiveness and understanding and acceptance what we tend to do is we tend to stay in force so if you have a look at this this year uh david hawkins yeah yeah so in upper brackets neutrality to enlightenment then underneath it is courage down to shame a lot of the coaching i do is around shame and guilt you know and apathy like feeling hopeless uh and this is where a lot of people are right now the fear and the propaganda is keeping them down in the lower brackets they're feeling anxiety it's frightening that's the view of life you know they feel disappointed because they want desire so they're like this is what i work with those with addictions it's like they want to you know go out and hook up with everybody they they get hooked on alcohol they take drugs it always ends up disappointing at the end of it because it's never fully filling their cup so i aim for a harmony it's like bring them up into brackets of forgiveness acceptance trust understanding reverence love joy peace these are all the things that christ kept representing when he was in mission was like we get to come into these brackets now like don't wait he refers to as the kingdom of god he's like come into the kingdom whereas what we have is we have empire trying to take us down to force god's calling us into the kingdom of power and the kingdom of love and the kingdom of truth and the kingdom of liberty liberty which is the higher brackets so yeah i just i just see what's going on and i see that those that operate a lot from like pride it looks like they've got their stuff together or the courage like they've got to constantly keep using courage uh to try and like make a way and this is where a lot of people that are in celebrity spaces tend to play up here the question i ask is like what happens when that thing that's feeding you no longer feeds you what happens when that goes right like do you lose your identity with that or are you still intact and most people that have been living in force that have been trying to overcompensate or tie themselves to things like i work with entrepreneurs that are seven figure entrepreneurs and they they you think like they're crushing it they make you know multiple seven figures a year maybe they have the private jets or the planes or the rolls royce or the fancy glitzy watch they cry themselves to sleep at night some of them they feel lonely like they're they're a mess when it comes to their family life they're a disappointment to their children you know and so i see that i'm just like they're not in power they're in force still yeah they just got really good at forcing but it's exhausting you become exhausted you're always trying to be a perfectionist you're always judging yourself and judging like it just it's such an unfortunate place to be in so this beast system is trying to keep us in the lower brackets and god keeps calling us to be in the higher brackets going come up with it with me co-create with me in power you know so don't let the enemy of our soul take you down to that place that's where you get captured into that space and you know how important is our soul if good and evil is battling for it each and every one of us you've been placed here for a reason you have meaning that's being placed on your life you've got purpose in your heart it's there you know and so many of us are trying ambition instead of purpose but ambition ambition ambition to be something to be someone we we gotta get out of our own way and come into our and come into the grace of god and come into that co-creation that's [Speaker 3] (1:22:42 - 1:22:49) where the power is i think that's the perfect place to end that was beautiful brother 100% man [Speaker 2] (1:22:49 - 1:22:55) but before you go i made a promise to my members on the other side that you'd explain to them how to make five million dollars in two and a half weeks so [Speaker 3] (1:23:02 - 1:23:03) invent a vaccine [Speaker 1] (1:23:06 - 1:25:56) well you probably could have dropped 20k on a moderna pfizer and uh johnson johnson like you early 2019 you probably would have had your five million by now like i learned this from gary vaynerchuk many many moons ago he said to me joel you know it's not about how much money you make it's how you make your money that counts and uh that resonated man it resonated stuck with me ever since and i think about that you know because i i could go into my back cave and make million dollar programs and launch them back to back and my girlfriend probably wouldn't like it i'd have not much of a life um it would just be me in the lab in the cave but that's not that's not fulfilling to me you know so i'd say like you know yeah you get get your money up but if your money's not going to a greater purpose you get to re-evaluate that one and work that one out you know yeah man i need i want a little bit of money to decentralize and um create some some new things in your life now like that's what i'm doing i'm getting some land out here in bali with my girl and you know out in a rice field near the ocean and just you know just getting on top of things man i made my health a huge priority i'm detoxing you know going on detox protocols to get heavy metals out you know because i've taken vax because i'm not anti-vax i'm anti this one you know but i've taken um yellow fever and uh hep b vax i've taken a bunch of them you know so they still have cobalt and aluminium oxide and a bunch of other stuff you don't want that especially when you're around this you're around your phone or you're around your wi-fi you're around cell towers i mean dr young broke this down he's been studying emf waves for 40 years you know and he said he was one of the first dudes if you saw on the news like 20 years ago the guy that was like sharing like what happens to your brain when you hold the radio waves near you and he did all the scans and everything he's seen it all and been around it for 40 years and he said to me he said joel you know this these heavy metal particles especially graphene oxide in the blood they crank the 5g you turn into a microwave i'm not trying to scare people i'm saying get this stuff out now yeah liposomal glutathione breaks down it's one of the only things that can actually break down graphene oxide it takes a while it kind of rusts away at it and it eats it out and takes it down to dissolve it to get it out of your system but we've got to get this crap out of our system guys god never made us to have this stuff in our system there's a direct attack on god's creation you know so we've got to come back to nature you know i i know yaris yarisimos i know that you're you know you're big on your natural health and alternative like you know listen to listen to him you know go to him for for advice he he's got the goods he knows how to bring you back into your harmony in your body and it's what we're going to be at you [Speaker 2] (1:25:56 - 1:26:28) know a time of chaos come back into your harmony all right man so appreciative of your time and wisdom and the deep dives and the deep research that you've done and for sharing it with us and for our audience such a pleasure that pleasure to host you and have you and to be connected with you and you mean to meet fellow truth warriors on this path where we are all being forced to stand up um it's it there's a beautiful silver lining to all of this anything that you want to leave our audience with before we bounce anything um where they can find you what you got coming up [Speaker 1] (1:26:28 - 1:28:36) let them know yeah if you want to know more about the god stuff uh not religion relationship i we created a my friend he's been a theologian for 15 years he's he's awesome like he really knows how to speak in a culture very well versed very philosophical he loves to talk about existentialism and he goes deep and very profound stuff uh this content we talk about it transcends self-development and spiritual development uh if you want to check that out go to our podcast called the unknown god right the unknown god uh paul the apostle was speaking with the greeks which is really interesting he's in i think it's in athens and he he had this conversation with them where he says you know he had this incredible way of articulating and sharing the gospel which is the good news of the kingdom which is everything we talked about uh two different cultures and he found an awesome way to communicate it to the greeks at the time that didn't understand they had more of their pagan idols and and they were kind of confusing he says he creates this mystery around it where he's like oh you don't know the unknowing god and they're like what who's the unknowing god so it became this thing that really captured our attention when we're looking at scriptures like that's actually cool because a lot of people i believe don't don't really know god like they don't know it in the way that he's been communicating to us because religion has gotten away so the subtitle to the to the podcast the unknown god is a podcast uh for people a podcast about god for people who don't like church you know and and that's what it is you know and it's we have people of all walks of life to come and listen to it it's so dope we get so many questions and awesome answers that come from in a breakthroughs so yeah check that out um also new program out called conquer the matrix so conquer the matrix.com it's all about decentralizing your life coming out of the system we break down all the pillars health wealth uh we go into mindset emotion and spiritual as well uh yeah it's like 197 us we're kicking it off pretty soon actually november so whenever this comes out hopefully you get to hear it before then go to conquer the matrix.com and jump in and uh thanks for having me guys appreciate you yeah brother thank [Speaker 2] (1:28:36 - 1:28:56) you man appreciate you too man and our members and our listeners the people that support us we appreciate you guys too thanks for listening we'll see you next time thanks for being here so waking up in a time they think you're in a delusion somebody set the alarms because they be too busy snoozing i'm in a DeLorean