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EPISODE 30 · SEP 26, 2021 · 1H 37M

Kozi Russos Liberty or Death

EPISODE 30 · KOZI RUSSOS
Liberty or Death

Kozi Russos is the kind of holistic healer the city tried to shout down — a first-generation Greek-American who learned plant medicine from a library book at nineteen, became an energy healer after a single vivid dream, and woke up one morning in 2020 to find that the work of his life had become a war. We trace the whole arc with him: the MMR refusal his mother made before any of this was fashionable, the fungal infection that ended his trust in doctors, the Brazilian Reiki master who found him on a subway platform, the visionary plant that left a warrior chief living inside him, and the Aries-rising fire that came online the moment New York started painting circles on the floor. Mid-conversation we land in the harder territory — EMF, the cell membrane, the cholesterol lie, the mind game of mandate compliance, and the quiet question underneath every front-line confrontation: what are they actually going to do if you don't move? A Greek healer in the most surveilled city in America, refusing the line.

  • Mama Kozi and the MMR refusal His mother had a sixth-grade education and never trusted the narrative. When the doctor tried to sell her the new three-in-one MMR shot for her son, she said no — she wanted them separately, and the gut said no entirely. Decades later, that single refusal looks less like luck and more like inherited discernment. The rebellious old Greek archetype, transmitted intact.
  • The fungal infection that broke the trust At nineteen Kozi had a recurring fungal infection from two-litre Pepsi habits. The doctor offered pills and casually mentioned they were liver-toxic. Something in him snapped awake. He walked to the library, found an herbal book, cut the sugar, ate raw garlic, took probiotics, used tea tree oil, and watched the thing dissolve in weeks. Walking back to the doctor with the news and being laughed at sealed it.
  • The dream that made him a healer Working as a sound engineer in his early twenties and feeling something missing, he had a dream of a blue-aura'd being healing his body and lighting his palms. He woke up sweating. From that morning forward people's headaches dissolved under his hands. A Brazilian Reiki master found him on a train platform reading a book on Reiki, recognised it immediately, and trained him into what he was already doing.
  • Electromagnetic beings, oxidative pollution Kozi's frame: every cell is a battery, every neuron fires with light, the body communicates electromagnetically. EMFs accelerate oxidation, burning through vitamin C, vitamin E, melatonin, and the protective pigments that should be defending the cell membrane. The damage isn't a particle. It's the depletion of defence.
  • The cholesterol lie and the cell membrane Every cell membrane is built from cholesterol. The brain runs on it. Sex hormones, cortisol, bile, vitamin D — all downstream. Then dietitian school told him to teach people to fear it. He walked out. Telling someone to reduce cholesterol intake, he says, is functionally telling them to die. The cell membrane is what EMF attacks; cholesterol and essential fatty acids are what repair the wall.
  • The plant teacher and the warrior chief Around twenty-one, a visionary plant brought him an experience he rarely shares. His body merged with what he describes as a Native American chief — a warrior, a leader of a tribe — and from that point on something dormant came online. The shy kid who never wanted to rock the boat felt a warrior take up residence, waiting for the moment to step forward. The mandates were the moment.
  • The mask refusal and the energy of a thousand men Subways, Whole Foods, three strangers surrounding him at once telling him to put one on. He's a short, bald guy in glasses who looks unthreatening — until he doesn't. He describes projecting an aura like a thousand men strong. Most confrontations ended the moment he turned the question back: come fucking put it on me. The body language of someone who has actually decided.
  • Stand the fuck up His core message to the men listening: about half the country didn't want it, and if they'd all said no on the same day the plan would have crumbled. Ten of them, millions of us. The mind game is in the compliance, not in the enforcement. Fines, threats, social pressure — what are they actually going to do if a whole department stays still?

Quotes

"If I see overweight, like obese people getting it, people with diabetes, people with all these conditions, they're recovering from it. And 99.9% of the people who got COVID recovered without any medical intervention."
Kozi Russos
"They want you vulnerable. They want you uneducated and looking to authorities, just like a priest or a doctor. I'm not with that. I've always been a self learner."
Kozi Russos
"When you stand up to authority, all your trauma from your childhood is going to come right up to the surface. So that's the work. The work is to stand up little by little."
Yerasimos
"Your rising sign is Aries, bro. This is your core sense of self. This is Kingly and Midas. This is, this is Sparta. No, this is New York, bro. This is you, man."
Joel Rafidi
"I felt like I created an aura that was like a thousand men strong. You know what I mean? That's what I was projecting to these people."
Kozi Russos
"About 50 percent of Americans don't want it. And if they all just stood up and said no, their plan would crumble."
Kozi Russos
"Stay as healthy as possible because we still got a long way to go. And if you're not healthy, mentally, physically, spiritually, you're not going to make it."
Kozi Russos
Episode transcript (hidden by default — readable by search engines)
[Speaker 3] (0:00 - 0:08) You are now listening to the here for the truth podcast hosted by Joel Rafiti and Erasmus Stylianesis. [Speaker 2] (0:13 - 1:02) Welcome back everybody to here for the truth. We got a special guest for you today and it's not because he's just a badass in New York City doing his thing. It's because he's a fellow Greek and so I love that even more. But just a reminder to first half of the episode is going to be for the public. Second half is going to be for our members. So yes, this is episode 30. Our guest is Cozy Russo. Cozy is a holistic healer and a health freedom activist. He specializes in nutrition, lifestyle modification, and energy healing. And for those of you that are on the gram and other social media outlets, you probably know him because he's fighting the good fight, fighting for medical freedom and health freedom in New York City and challenging the powers that be. Cozy, welcome brother. [Speaker 1] (1:02 - 1:04) What's going on? Thank you for that awesome intro. [Speaker 2] (1:05 - 1:20) Yeah, no doubt, man. No, it's good. It's good to connect. And I remember, I don't know when it was, I think it was last year or the beginning of all this. I remember you like made a post in Greek or something. I was like, yo shit, there's like someone talking about stuff going on in Greece in Greek. I was like, I got to connect with this guy. So it's good to have you on. [Speaker 1] (1:22 - 1:23) Awesome. Yeah, I'm glad to be here. [Speaker 2] (1:26 - 1:47) So Cozy, how'd you get started and how did you get started like being on the front lines in New York City, like speaking truth to power, you know, because you got it, you have an Instagram presence, you got your megaphone, you're doing your thing, you're talking shit about Como, you're talking shit about de Blasio. And I just want to know like, how did you get to be where you are right now? [Speaker 1] (1:48 - 4:18) Well, it's a long journey, but if you want to just be immediate, like how did I get out there speaking? It's just the tyranny. And like, I'm just seeing the tyranny happening all around us there. You know, once this, you know, pandemic started, like I saw it coming, you know what I mean? Once they started doing certain things, you know, I remember two years before this pandemic, the so-called pandemic, they were talking about, you know, how are we going to get for first of all, two years before the pandemic, right? The CDC came out with adult schedule. Okay. And to me, that was a red alert, like red flag, like, wait a minute, what do you mean you created an adult schedule? That was never made before. It was always a children's schedule for vaccines. So they made the adult schedule and I'm like, why are they doing this? You know what I mean? And they started, like, they actually came up with a plan, but I'm like, how are they going to enforce this? And then my mind started to wander, you know, and I remember hearing talks from here and there, certain politicians kind of, you know, putting it out there saying, oh, you know, we could link their, you know, their vaccination records to their passports. Maybe that's how we can get them to do it. I forgot where exactly I heard that, but I heard a few politicians talking about that. And I was like, wow, these mother effers, man, this is what they're going to try to do to us. So when the whole measles thing happened, right, this was, the measles thing happened right before this, right? And once that started happening, I started seeing a little bit, that was like the test run, right? Of what you're seeing now. They actually went into New York. The mayor actually called for, right, I believe it was the mayor and the department of health head were calling for mandatory vaccinations of people in specific area codes. And that was one of my area codes where I live, you know, in Brooklyn, because there's a big Hasidic community, Hasidic Jewish community. We started targeting that and said, let's see if we can get away with this. They were like, you know what I mean? So they literally were telling people, if you're in this section, you know, you need to be vaccinated for the measles, you know? So they were testing that, they were trying to quarantine people and that's the excuse they use to get rid of religious exemptions for minors in New York, you know, 18 and under. So they use that as an excuse. And that was pretty intense. The fact that they were able to do that, to remove religious rights is a big step. And we knew something dirty, something evil was coming. As soon as they did that, they tried to do that to New Jersey, but they failed by the teeth, you know, but that they really needed that, right? That was the last thing they really wanted to do, but, but they got defeated, you know? [Speaker 2] (4:18 - 4:21) Jersey Strong, bro. Jersey Strong. That's my home state. [Speaker 1] (4:21 - 5:09) And, you know, I participated in the background, like getting people organized. We had a freaking amazing team out there, Stephania Christian, shout out to you. A lot of people, Lady Be Good, shout out to you. A whole bunch. I don't want to just start naming because I'm going to forget people, but there's a lot of people who participated to help stop that. But anyway, after that, boom, they hit us with this plandemic. And actually, if you go back a little bit before that, I guess a couple, a year before the plandemic, they started warning people, you know, about vaccine hesitancy. They said, the World Health Organization came out and said, vaccine hesitancy is, they said the number one of the top 10 health threats in the world. So you knew something was coming, you know? [Speaker 3] (5:10 - 5:53) You're right, man. And people easily forget the things that happened pre-plandemic, because obviously, one, we have short memories, and two, it's fucking been very intense for the last 18 months or whatever it has been. And I don't know if this hit the news cycle in America, but in Australia, we're pretty close to Samoa. And I recall before this came in, all over the news cycle in Samoa, they were going door to door. They initiated door to door over the measles. And it was a massive, massive, massive thing. And that's something that I always recall as well. I was thinking, how are they going to implement this everywhere, you know? And then obviously, the Trojan horse comes in being being covaids. But yeah, man, it's crazy, because we often don't connect the dots of the things that happened before this point, you know? [Speaker 1] (5:54 - 5:57) Well, what do you mean? Like, they went door to door, like vaccinating people? [Speaker 3] (5:58 - 6:10) Yeah, they initiated door to door vaccinations in Samoa over the measles. Pre-Covid? Pre-Covid. I don't know. I don't want to say specifics, because it's kind of vague in my memory. [Speaker 1] (6:10 - 6:21) But yeah, I'm getting that. Oh, my God. You just said that. And I just remembered. I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah, they were. They were pushing that. Like, yeah, I forgot all about that. You see how our memory does. You know, that was a big thing. [Speaker 3] (6:21 - 6:21) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (6:22 - 6:23) It's crazy. [Speaker 2] (6:23 - 6:35) So, so, so cozy. I mean, I want to keep going into all this, too. But I want to know, like, were you first generation Greek? Your first generation? Like, meaning, like, your parents were born in Greece? [Speaker 1] (6:35 - 6:47) Yeah, my parents were born in Greece. You know, my mom came here when she was 19. My dad came here when he was 13. And yeah, I'm first generation American, I guess. Greek American. [Speaker 2] (6:47 - 7:23) Yeah, same here, dude. Yeah, my parents both born and raised in Greece. And then they came here. So I'm curious, you know, because I think we were both raised with Greek parents on the East Coast. And so, you know, how did you go from, you know, being a child of immigrants to, you know, being more of a free thinker, maybe not taking over the family business or family restaurant? And, you know, as many do, and being a free thinker and challenging the status quo. Like, what was some of your, like, major rites of passage in your life? Like, from, you know, I'm making assumptions here, from being an altar boy at the local Greek church to doing what you do now, you know? [Speaker 1] (7:23 - 9:14) Well, I owe a lot to my mom, I guess, you know, she was definitely a free thinker, still is. And I always heard her growing up talking politics, like cursing at the TV when things were happening. And I was like, and she was not going along with the narrative ever. You know what I mean? I wasn't, you know, vaccinated, like most people. I had maybe like, three vaccines, you know what I mean? So she knew something was up just and she wasn't educated. She didn't go to school. She just went up to sixth grade. But she knew, like, the MMR vaccine came out. That was like the new thing when I was little. And they said that it was a three in one shot. The doctor was trying to sell her that. And she's like, wait, you want to inject them with three things at once? She's like, no, that's not a good idea. She's like, you know, I prefer them separately. And she's like, you know what? I just have a bad hint. So she never gave me the MMR, which I'm happy for. You know, so that was one thing. And like, you know, just hearing politics, hearing her curse, and argue with people over politics. She was always outspoken. So I think I inherited that. Also, Greeks, and you know this as well, the old Greeks, not the Greeks of today who just sit there and hit on their, you know, frappes, frappe, and just chill out and lazy. The older Greeks were very powerful. And, you know, they were very rebellious by nature. You know, they didn't listen to government. I remember when, you know, I'd seen with my own eyes, when I was a child, some Greek guy just ripping a ticket he got from the cop. Like, he's like, I'm not paying this. They're like, F you. And like, the cops are like, holy shit. You know what I mean? So like, Greeks are rebellious by nature. Plus, you know, we were raised in America. We were taught, you know, freedom and liberty. And like, when I was growing up, you know, Americans were the freest. You can't tell an American what to do. So, you know, bringing those two backgrounds together is a very powerful combination, I think, you know? [Speaker 2] (9:15 - 9:46) Yeah, I agree. My mom has a sixth grade education. My dad had a second grade education. Wow. Just like, came here and just worked and built the kind of American dream kind of thing. And my dad would only get American-made cars. Wow. Because he was, like, grateful for being in this country. And that occurred for our whole life. So yeah, it's cool, man. I could just picture it. I don't know your mom, but I could just picture it. Because like, the Greeks, they have that, like, you know, like, they speak with their hands. They're intense. And I'm like, you know, they're just, like, going off on the TV. I could just picture that shit, dude. [Speaker 3] (9:47 - 10:07) You're right, dude. What were you going to say? Massive shout out to Mama Cozy for being on board and recognizing what's going on with the whole vaccine agenda early. And they're having the audacity to not be subverted by doctors in an office over MMR and shit like that. You know what I mean? Like, that's pretty conscious. That's pretty on it, man, considering, you know what I mean, the circumstances. Wow. So yeah. [Speaker 1] (10:08 - 13:27) She questioned everything, from what they're teaching you in school, what, like, she always was on top of that, you know? But I got to say, like, the reason I got into this, like, even the social holistic aspect is because, you know, I went to a regular doctor. When I was, like, you know, 16 to, like, 18, I was playing basketball, and I wasn't eating healthy. You know what I mean? I was, like, downing two liters of Pepsi. That was, like, what I would drink. I wouldn't drink water. It's like, oh, water is nasty. Let me just drink literally two liter Pepsi drinking that. And, you know, all that sugar was bad. So I started getting, like, a fungal infection on my shoulder. But I didn't know at the time it was from that, you know? So I was getting that. So I went to the doctor. Hey, do you have a cream or lotion, or, like, can you take care of this? So he gave me a lotion. It went away. But then it kept coming back. So then when it came back, and this came back, again, the next year, exactly around the same time, July, August. So I go and check it out. And he's like, all right, you know what? Since the cream didn't do it, he's like, how about these pills? And I'm like, OK. And he's like, but first, before you take these pills, you have to. Mind you, I'm 19 at the time. He's like, mind you, I got to just test to see if your liver is healthy. When he said that, like, something changed in my mind, you know? Because I had no reason to not trust doctors, you know? But something asked me, wait. And then I asked him. I said, oh, why would you want to test if my liver is healthy? Is this dangerous for my liver, I told him. He's like, well, if you don't have a healthy liver, yeah, this could be problematic, he said. I didn't like that, you know what I mean? So I went home. I went right to the library, you know? I went to the library and looked up that medication. And this is back in the 90s, right? 98, 99. So, you know, went to the library, checked it out. I looked it up. And I said, oh, I found the medicine. I said, yeah, this is toxic to your liver. And I'm like, I don't want this shit. Let me see what else I can do, you know? So I'm looking. I find an herbal book, you know? And that was my first introduction to, like, the real health world, you know? So I got this herbal book. And I look in there. And it had fungal infections, how to treat them naturally. It started talking about diet, which I was blown away. I was like, wow, through your diet, you can do this? It said reduce your sugar intake. I started thinking about my sugar intake. I was like, wow, I drink a lot of sugar, you know? I'm like, wow. So then I'm like, okay, what else? It talked about probiotics, which I've never heard of. I was like, what are probiotics? I'm looking at fermented foods. The guy's telling us about yogurt, kimchi, all sorts of stuff, you know? And I was like, wow, this is pretty amazing. Let me try this. Talked about eating raw garlic, you know, rubbing tea tree oil. So I tried all this stuff. I started reducing my sugar intake, drinking nothing but water and like maybe some lime in there, eating raw garlic, you know, putting the tea tree oil, eating the probiotics. And within two weeks, I already started seeing a change. It was diminishing. And then I kept it up. And then within a month, it was completely gone. It never came back again. So I went back to the doctor and said, hey, you know, I cured this thing without your medicine. I don't want to take it because it's toxic. I use this. And he starts laughing at me. He was like smirking. Like, oh, that's just a coincidence. You know, diet has nothing to do with it. And I got angry because he's like literally like, you know, belittling me or like kind of poo-pooing what I just told him. So I was like, F him. You know what I mean? I'm the healer. F him. He doesn't know what he's talking about. So from that point on, I didn't respect him. I didn't respect doctors. I was like, you know what? These are fools, you know? Wow. [Speaker 2] (13:27 - 13:58) Yeah, dude, I do know. I agree with you 100% everything you just said. I'm like, these motherfuckers, like they can't comprehend something that they just weren't trained in, you know? And so instead of being open to it, because if they were to be open to it, they'd have to come to the realization that all that money, all that time, all that energy that they put into their training and their education to a certain degree was useless. And they can't sit with that. That's deep, man. That's some severe cognitive dissonance. So all they can do is gaslight, dismiss, deflect, and be condescending. [Speaker 3] (13:59 - 14:03) Especially over the fact that you figured something out on your own. You know what I mean? Yeah. [Speaker 1] (14:04 - 15:00) And once I figured that out, I'm like, wow. Then I said, what about these other plants? I started looking at the book. I'm like, every plant is medicinal. And I was fascinated by that. So I just went all in, man. I got obsessed with herbs. I went in there, started learning every herb I can. I was studying each page, what it's good for, you know what I mean? Where it's found. And I went crazy. I went through two years of fully just learning on my own every plant I could get. And I was amazed. I already had memorized things. Somebody said they had a headache. I'm like, I know what to give you. You know, my dad had varicose vein. He was waking up in pain with his leg. He would sleep and just start screaming. And I'm like, oh, I know what to do. Let me give him some ginkgo. So I gave him ginkgo. That thing went away. He never had pain again. So I was like, wow. So I started giving people stuff like, oh, let me just pretty much like practicing on friends and family. And this stuff was working. And I'm like, holy shit. I'm like, I'm a wizard. You know what I mean? I gave him a picture. I'm like, cozy. [Speaker 2] (15:00 - 15:03) He said, you're gross. He said, you're gross. [Speaker 1] (15:03 - 19:24) My dad was proud. You know, from Greek, like Greek people have this thing. Oh, botanist. Botanist is like botanicals, you know? And he's like, he was impressed. He's like, wow, this is pretty cool. So the more I was learning, I was like, yo, this is really cool. So I went to Greece. I started healing people with different ailments. I would have my book and I'd be like, I know what you need. You need this, you know? So people were like fascinated, you know? And I felt, I felt powerful. I felt like, like I had this knowledge, you know? And that's where it started, you know? Then, you know, a lot of things happened. You know, I went, I mean, there's all like chopped up areas. But like, you know, from there, I learned to be an energy healer. And this happened just in my dream. Like I had this amazing dream, right? Where I was working as a sound engineer years ago. It was around, you know, 1920, 19 to 21. And I wasn't happy with it. Like I was happy at first, but towards the end, I was like, you know, something's missing, you know? I don't think this is it for me. There's something else for me. And I went to sleep one day. I only had like three hours of sleep. And I woke up. I mean, in my dream, I, this kind of holy person went on top of me. He was like in a blue aura, okay? And he starts healing my body. I still remember exactly what he did. He was healing my energy. He was aligning me again. And just renewed me. And then he flipped over my palms and he started waving his arms around there and he lit my arm, my hands in a blue glow. Okay. And I woke up and I was like, oh my God, I just started sweating. And I woke up and I look at my hands and I'm like, wow, this was very strange. This guy gave me some healing energy. And from that point on, I became a healer. I was just naturally, I just knew what to do without reading any books. I didn't even know about Reiki. I didn't know what that stuff was, but I walked up to a friend of mine, this girl. She was, she was crying. She was sad. I just put my hands on her and I immediately felt this healing energy going through her. And she just stopped. When people were having headaches, migraines, I naturally knew just put my hands on their head. The migraines would go away in a few minutes. And I just started healing people that my friend's mom had cancer. I went to see her in the hospital. I just said, I'm going to heal her. I just put my hands on her and I was healing her every day for like a week. Her cancer went into remission. And I was like, I just knew it wasn't even like, oh, maybe I, I was just confident. I had this confidence in me. And I was like, I can heal people. And I was just doing it. And this, I felt this powerful energy. I was like really amazed. And then, you know, unfortunately a few years later, the woman died. It was like five years later, but this extent, I felt like I contributed to this. I don't know if it's coincidence or what, but at the time I felt like I did that, but whatever, five years later, you know, she passed away, rest in peace to her. But anyway, back to the story, where was I going? Oh, and then this fascinating thing happened. So after like two years of healing people like this, I'm sitting on a, I go to Barnes and Nobles and pick up a book. I'm started reading and I see the hands, like all the hand stuff that I was doing. I was like, wow, this is very similar to what I do. It was called Reiki. I'm like, oh, this is cool. Let me take it home and read more. So I'm on my way on the platform, Queensborough Plaza. I'm waiting, reading this book. Somebody taps me on the shoulder. Right. I turn around. I'm like, yeah. She's like, are you a Reiki student? And I'm like, oh no, no. I just picked it up. I was just learning about this. I wanted to know more about it. She's like, oh, I'm a Reiki master. She's from Brazil. Okay. A Brazilian woman. She barely spoke English, like very chopped English, you know, like, and she's like, I'm a Reiki master. I'm like, oh, that's pretty cool. And she starts telling me about it. She's like, I have healing circles in my home, like once a month, if you want to come, you're welcome. And I'm like, this is awesome. You know? So she got off the stop right before I did. She gave me her number and everything. And I'm like, oh, this is awesome. So I went to see what she was about and she was awesome. She was healing people in her home. She would just invite people for free, just healing her and her husband. We're just healing people like five, six, 10 people at a time just coming in. And I was helping them and saying, would you like to help? I went on and helped and they felt it. They looked at me and they looked at my hands like, wow, we feel the energy. She's like, you're a natural healer, but if you want to learn more, I can definitely teach you. So she taught me like just by, I was just basically seeing what she did. And, you know, she, she definitely taught me a lot of stuff, you know? And I was grateful. [Speaker 3] (19:25 - 19:50) It's incredible, man. There's like, I'm going to be belated, but there's no, there's no coincidences. There's only synchronicities man. And anyone on the path recognizes that fully, you know, goosebumps, dude. I want to, I want to ask you, man, like, tell us a bit more about generally how now that you've kind of been through that and in that, like the mechanisms of, of Reiki, as you, as you understand that now, how would you describe the process of how that actually works to someone who's never even delved into that area? [Speaker 1] (19:51 - 21:55) Yeah, well, I have a different idea, like from what people there's, you know, there's a theory that people say, you know, everybody says the same thing. All Reiki comes from this energy, this life force energy, they call it and they channel it and put it in. I see it in many different ways as I really, what I do, like I say Reiki, but it's, I don't like to like put that label on it. I'm a healer. It's all the same. I think that I can tell you from what I believe and what I've learned, studied the science on it. I believe that we're electromagnetic beings. We have magnetism in us and it's because every cell in our body is a battery. Okay. And it creates energy. It, it, it shoots out light. Every cell can communicate with light and that's how we do communicate. Our neurons fire with light, light, sound. And when we put our hands on people, a lot of things are happening here, right? So our hands help soothe people. It helps relax people, comforts them. Okay. As we're comforting though, also, we have energy that's coming emitting from our heart, from our brain. And again, every cell in our body is emitting this energy. And we all have these healing frequencies. Like we were, we were created that way to be able to help and heal others. That's why when a baby cries, a mother knows instinctually to hug the baby, the baby stops crying, right? Cause it's comforted. It's feeling this energy. It's not just about the embrace. It's the embrace plus a loving energy that surrounds it, right? If you bump your toe, the first thing you do, or you have a headache, you, you just touch the part that is hurting because something's happening there, right? Something's happening beyond just the touch. It's, it's a, it's an electromagnetic thing. So, um, I believe that we have these healing frequencies and when we touch others, and especially if you practice a certain way and you're calm about it, like you have this meditative, um, it's, it's, it's like a meditation. I see it as if you can meditate and you can be calm, uh, you can transfer that calming energy into people. So that's what I believe is happening. And I also think that we have, because we have light in us, we can transfer that light into others. [Speaker 3] (21:56 - 22:09) Wow. So on, on, on that note, how do you, how do you perceive the problem of EMF? If we are magnetic beings, has that shifted the way that you see EMF as, as an actual threat to our physiology? [Speaker 1] (22:10 - 22:54) Yeah, totally. Totally. Um, EMFs are very dangerous for our bodies. Um, what they do, the major reason why they're, they're dangerous is because they, uh, oxidize our bodies. They're, they're powerful oxidizers. So we use up all our antioxidants. While we're being hit with this, our body's using all its vitamin C, all its vitamin E, all of, all of our, the, you know, the protective pigments that we get from like fruits, vegetables, seaweeds, all of that stuff is being used to, to kind of counteract these things. And that's where the problem lies is as we're using up these antioxidants, we don't have enough to protect ourselves, right? Because these, we have these to protect ourselves and now you're using it to protect that. Now your cells are unprotected and that's where the damage happens. Yeah. [Speaker 3] (22:54 - 22:54) Wow. [Speaker 2] (22:55 - 23:21) So how do you, how do you, how do you navigate that being in one of the most highly, uh, charged places from a, from an electromagnetic radiation standpoint in New York city? And then I want to also get into later on if you think like EMFs have a impact on, on symptoms, especially regarding the whole thing that happened last year. But first, yeah, just talk about that. Like, like what do you do to, to, to take precaution and take care of yourself and mitigate that stress? [Speaker 1] (23:21 - 24:41) Yeah. I mean, obviously it's hard to avoid cause we're like swimming in a sea of this electromagnetic like pollution. Um, but the best things you can do is, um, make sure you're getting enough antioxidants. Okay. Make sure you're eating, you know, your vegetables with, especially with the skin, uh, you know, the pigments are what's powerful and protects us. Um, you know, so things like turmeric, um, you know, um, or just try to eat the rainbow. I know it's, it's pretty much cliche, right? Like everybody knows about that, but eat the rainbow of colors. That's what's protecting us. Seaweeds are very powerful. It's probably the most powerful thing that can protect you. Obviously you have to make sure the seaweeds are coming from a clean source, clean water. Um, but you know, these are the powerful things, antioxidants, uh, making sure you're sleeping well, because when you sleep, your body's producing melatonin. Melatonin is one of the most powerful antioxidants, um, you know, that our body makes, uh, obviously you can supplement with it, but you know, I wouldn't, um, suggest anybody use it like regularly, you know, here and there it's okay. Uh, you know, maybe a couple of times a week you can do it, but I wouldn't do it daily, but try to get sleep is the important thing. Shut off your phones, your electronics a little earlier, you know, than your bedtime. Um, it's really important, uh, and trying to rest and relax. I mean, that's the key, you know? Yeah. [Speaker 2] (24:42 - 26:09) Yeah. It's, you know, it's pretty amazing, um, just because I've had the experience. I lived in New York city for eight years and then I would go out camping in nature and literally like camping and backpacking, walking thousands of, you know, you know, you know, a whole bunch of miles and then thousands of elevation and then being exhausted and still having this energy and waking up. And then I'd come back to New York city and then I'd go to sleep and want to sleep for like 15 hours. Like I was so, so tired and like drained. And so just like, I agree, like the more we can bring nature into our lives, you know, especially while living in the city, I think it's really important. So like the whole EMF thing has been something that's been big in my life. Like, you know, I got this new, new technology, this, this graphene, graphene powder that you add water to, and it becomes a paint. And so we painted all our walls with it in the house and then two coats of that and then connect it to a conductive tape that connects to the ground in the outlet that grounds it as well. And then we put the regular paint over and I have it in the back and a back healing studio as well. It's this electro, I've worked with this electrician and electromagnetic radiation specialist here in California. And it's like, it's tricky, man, because it's coming at us from all angles. And what you said is so on point is like sleep is so, so important. So even if you can just like turn off the wifi, you know, make sure your phone isn't on, is on airplane motor turned off and it's not right next to your head while you're sleeping is just going to support your, your, your health and support your sleep so you can help regenerate even more. So I hear you, man. Yeah. [Speaker 1] (26:09 - 27:56) And like, yeah, when you're sleeping, that's because relaxation. So when you're relaxed, that's when we heal, right? There's there's two nervous systems. There's a parasympathetic and sympathetic with sympathetic, the fight or flight mode. It's when you wake up, it's like that coffee energy is like stimulated energy, but the parasympathetic is when we're healing. So when that's why it's good to meditate, that's another one. So if you're meditating and you don't have to be a Buddhist monk, but if you just stop, close the lights and just slow deep breathing for a few minutes, it's very powerful because it's telling your body, Hey, you're safe. And when you're safe, your body says, okay, I don't have to fight because I'm safe now. Let me use my resources to heal the body. Okay. And that's very powerful to understand that because when your body shuts that, because when you're outside, you're, you're vulnerable, right? You're vulnerable when you're scared, you're vulnerable. So like your body's not going to use its resources to heal. It's going to say, let me fight. Let me put up walls. Let me, let me, you know, let me bite somebody. Let me run away from somebody. So yeah. You shut off that stress response by slow deep breathing. When, when the body sees oxygen, it says, okay, I'm safe. That's why it's, it's good. Like what you said, right? Like swimming and being in nature, even hugging a tree, getting into water. If you get into the beach, all those minerals are going to calm you down. All that stuff helps getting into the sun. That's also very healing. You know, if you're in nature, take off your socks, ground to the earth. We know that when you ground, you're getting extra antioxidants from the earth and that stuff. I'm sure you guys read about grounding and stuff like that, but for the audience that might not know when the, when lightning strikes the ground, it, it releases free electrons into the ground. So when you're putting your feet there, you're zapping up really powerful antioxidants. So all this stuff helps again, being in nature, relaxing, laughing, laughing is one of the best things you can do. So watch comedy and just laugh with your friends. [Speaker 2] (27:57 - 27:59) Let's do a little laugh right now. [Speaker 1] (28:01 - 28:12) Even if you're making believe like you're forcing, even just making a smile. The fact that we've learned that if you even fake a smile, that thing will stimulate endorphins. It's, it's freaking amazing. [Speaker 3] (28:13 - 28:47) It's incredible, man. Absolutely incredible. One thing I've noticed is that EMF is the real empirical threat, right? Whereas viruses, they're the psychological threat because that's, that's what they've attuned us to believe is the threat. Meanwhile, we're constantly bathing in the real empirical problem and we're not even thinking about it at all, bro. Like most of the time. That's the real invisible threat. Exactly. We're looking for the invisible particles and counteracting against that, but no one, no one's considering what's actually affecting us. It's just, yeah, they've done the game well. [Speaker 1] (28:48 - 29:59) And I wanted to add something. You just reminded me because you said, you know, about the threat. And I just want to also mention the cell membrane is super important to keep intact. And that's what really is going to protect you because this EMF is attacking your cell membranes and literally creates holes in them to like come in and invade your cells. And that's where the real damage happens. So keeping that cell membrane, the antioxidants will protect that cell membrane. But the most important thing is getting enough cholesterol and essential fatty acids to, because that's what really is making that layer. So you want to make sure you're building that layer. But so you need cholesterol, you need EMF EFA. Sorry. Did I say EMS? Yeah. Essential fatty acids like Omega threes, Omega sixes particularly. And they tell you don't eat Omega sixes. That's a lie. You need a lot of Omega sixes, but you need to make sure they're there. They're not oxidized. That's the important thing. So I personally take this oil called Udo's oil. And Udo's oils, you know, it's an oil that has the proper proportion of what Omega six to Omega threes and they keep it refrigerated. And, you know, you have to just be careful not to spoil them, but that stuff is excellent to build and protect yourselves from this radiation. [Speaker 3] (30:00 - 30:17) It's interesting, man, because this kind of ties in slightly to the whole veganism agenda in some kind of way, right? Because we eliminate all cholesterol completely and we have none of that fatty protection after being on such a journey. So it just makes me try to connect the dots of what these guys are trying to pull. [Speaker 1] (30:18 - 31:19) Yeah, there's definitely an agenda. And, you know, I know a lot of vegans get upset about this, but I don't want to like, you know, divide anybody and stuff. If you're a vegan, that's cool. But you can definitely get cholesterol. Your body will make cholesterol. It has to, because it's so vital that your body will make it no matter what, you know? But I believe that they've lied to, not that I believe, I know they've lied to us about cholesterol. It's very powerful stuff. It produces all our sex hormones, our fight or flight hormone, cortisol. You know, it, it helps pretty much. It's part of, it is vitamin D basically. It's a tweak version of vitamin D. So that's needed your bile, which, you know, your digestive tract you know, your bowels made from your liver that is created from cholesterol. So your cell membranes are made of cholesterol. So imagine, you know, the implications of telling somebody, Oh, you have to reduce your cholesterol intake. That's like saying, that's like pretty much you're wishing somebody to die. I think, I think it's evil. [Speaker 2] (31:21 - 32:40) I mean, I come to it from this place, man, just for someone who's been in this world for 15 years and studying different things around health and modalities, body work, et cetera. It's like the, it's an inverted world we live in on every single level. I mean, the thing that gets blasted on the mainstream, even from, from a nutrition standpoint, I run the other way personally. And I'm always diving in and digging in people who are challenging the status quo, even within the alternative community. There's just so much knowledge, so much wisdom that's kept from the public, from the population. And like what you said earlier, man, I think really is the answer is like you became your own doctor. You became your own healer. You were empowered to seek out information and to figure things out for yourself and see how things responded with your own body. You're a universe within yourself. You know what I mean? So it's like, well, I just think that's the really, really important thing and what I think the powers that be, and even how they're trained in the medical world to think is like, let's be the answer. Let's not empower other people and our clients that they can be the healers of their own life. And it's like, let's keep you in perpetual victimhood. It's like, I don't know. I don't have the answers. Like, where can I go? Oh, the priest in the white coat shall have the answers. And anoint me with a blessing, et cetera, et cetera, you know? [Speaker 1] (32:40 - 35:42) You hit the nail on the head, man. They want you vulnerable. They want you uneducated and looking to authorities, just like you said, like a priest or like a doctor. I'm not with that. I've always been a self learner. You know, I went to, so after this whole herb stuff and the healing stuff, I went to, I went to school to study nutrition because I wanted to be an herbalist at first. Right. I was like, Oh, I want to be an herbalist. But in order to get, you know, part of this organization, they said, Oh, you need nutrition credits and biochemistry. Like, all right, let me start. As I was, I was thinking, okay, I'm going to become a dietitian as well. In the middle of that, I stopped because of this whole agenda, right? I was learning about cholesterol in science class and I was taught that every cell membrane was made of cholesterol. And now my nutrition school is telling me like a dietitian school is telling me, Oh, you have to avoid cholesterol. I mean, that doesn't make any sense. Like if your body's made of, your brain is made of cholesterol, your cells are made of it. Why would I want to reduce it? That doesn't make any sense. Right. So I felt like something was wrong with that narrative. So that's where I, that's another Avenue that I went down a rabbit hole. I was like, Holy shit. They're lying to us. Same thing with diabetes. They were treating diabetics. They were giving diabetic sugar and saying that that's okay. Oh yeah. They could eat mashed potatoes and sweet potatoes and rice. It's like, I'm like, what? Like if you have diabetes, you've got to control that. You know what I mean? It's unless you want to be on medicine, right? If you want to be on insulin all your life, then of course, you know what I mean? You know, keep eating the sugar. So that these were all red flags to me. And that's when I decided to research on my own. And that's, I went deep into the science of nutrition and I'm thankful I did. And that led me to this road about, you know, then the whole, that the vaccine thing comes around because around 2009, when I actually started working in the health field, Not as a dietitian because I never became a dietitian. But anyway, I'm in the health field, in the nutrition department. And then they start talking about mandating flu shots around 2009. That's talk started happening. So right away, that's where my first real battle was. Cause it's like, you know what? They want to mandate what? And that got me questioning. I never questioned vaccines before that. Right. I was like, yeah, whatever, you know, didn't think much, but when somebody wanted to mandate it forced me to get a flu shot, I'm like, wait a minute. What's what's in this thing. First of all, I started looking at the ingredients. I'm like, what mercury, what, what, what? And then I started, you know, researching. I tried to read everything I could. I ran into Dr. Tenpenny's like interview one day. And I, I was like, I was blown away by what she was saying. And that she was really the first doctor that like put me on and I was like, wow, this is insane. You know? But that's how I got started and I started learning. And since then, and I think that's what got me into this, the mandate that's when you tell somebody you must do this. I think the human being like a critically thinking human being is like, what? No, I'm not going to just do it because you told me, why should I do it? Let me find out what this is about. Let me see what it actually does to my body. Let me see what it's going to do to my health. And why do I need that? It's just the flu. Why do I need that? So that's what really started angering me. [Speaker 3] (35:43 - 36:43) Yeah, man. I want to give you a little confirmation here, bro. So I work with divination. I'm a student of tarot astrology, numerology, and the ancient esoteric side of things. So the ancient Egyptian Zodiac is actually 36 constellations, right? And each one of those constellations links to a card of the minor arcana of the tarot, which is actually tens of thousands of years old, these images. So we each have a card, which rules the 10 day period, which we were born to. And your personal card is this. It's the four of swords, right? Let me just tell you a bit about what the four of swords means. This is research analysis, deep learning, meticulousness, close observation, mastery, seeing beneath the surface. This is like the deepest educational card that we have. This is someone that's constantly learning, constantly seeing beneath the surface, wanting to absorb as much knowledge as possible. So there's just absolutely no coincidence that you see things and you go to the depths that you go to. That is, that is how you, how you arrived here, man. [Speaker 1] (36:44 - 36:47) That's pretty cool. And yeah, I definitely want to hear more. That's pretty awesome. [Speaker 2] (36:48 - 37:44) And it's never ending man for the, for people that are have this investigative quality that want to get to the bottom of things. It's a constant unfolding. You know, it's like, how many times in my life can I say where I'm like, Oh, I thought this was the truth or this was the answer, but then staying open and keeping a critical thinking mind and going, Oh, whoa, no, no, no. This makes more sense or this makes more sense. And it's a constant like tweaking process. You know, like people think this truth seeking journey is like this linear process. It's like, no, it's not. It's like two steps forward, one to the side, left, back and like, you know, questioning yourself then, then being self-righteous for a while then going, Oh shit, I shouldn't have been self-righteous. Cause I wasn't a hundred percent. Right. And then I go down this alley, like it's about being in the fucking arena and putting on the gloves and fighting and getting messy and getting dirty. Like it's not about being perfect because what the fuck is perfection? You know what I mean? Like, what is that anyway? So kudos to you, brother. [Speaker 1] (37:44 - 39:57) Yeah, right on. And yeah, like what you're saying is right. Cause I'm not, I'm never consistent. Like I'm, you know, I'm a peaceful, like I'm a healer. That's, that's really what I love doing. But that was interrupted because once this stuff started happening, I'm like, I can't heal somebody right now. There's war. Literally. I feel like there's a war on us, our war on our biology and a war on our freedom. So I'm like, you know what, I'm going to use my healing energy. I started channeling that energy with power and, and getting myself into this position. And it naturally happened because as I was, I did a talk once on live Instagram live and I'm like, oh, we'll talk about vaccines. And people loved what I said. And I thought like, oh shit, people want to learn more. So then I kept getting into it and get, and then somehow I got sucked into, you know, once they started mandating shots for kids and like, you know, all this stuff is like, I really got on there to protect my children and I became fierce. I'm like, you know what, I'm going to protect these kids. I'm going to get them a religious exemption. I'm going to do this. I'm going to, and fighting that old constantly fighting in my life, you know? And this is where we're at today. And, and that's never, we, we never got relief from that. Right. Even after it got the religious exemptions, two years later, they were taken away from us in New York. So I was angry, full of rage. And then I'm like, these mother effers just don't stop. And then they hit us with this pandemic and now I'm full war mode. Okay. You tyrants out there, man, we're going to defeat you so badly. The people are awakening. We're multiplying by the day. Every conversation I have, I make sure on the train, I'm handing out flyers almost every single day. Every single day I speak to somebody, I make it a goal in my mind. I'm going to affect at least five people today. And I make out my, that's my goal every single day. By the time I leave my house to, you know, take the train to go to work and my lunch break and back, I'm talking to people. Okay. And if we all did that, or just say one person a day, I'm going to affect with the conversation. Okay. We're going to make the changes. They're scared and terrified of us. This is why they're coming in with these mandates, full rush on us because we can't allow them to wake up anymore. Just force them, you know, get, get rid of their, you know, food supply, get rid of their financial, you know, you know, their, their cashflow, you know what I mean? Get in there, shut them down. And then they'll give in. That's what they're trying to do. [Speaker 3] (39:58 - 40:27) That's exactly what I fucking love, bro. And I got, I got to come back in here one more time now. So your rising sign is Aries, bro. You're rising. This is your core sense of self is Aries, bro. It's the Emperor. You are the fucking guy, man. You are the leader, bro. You are the one with the highest energy to go and do this shit, bro. You are the one that's going to bring the fight, man. This is, this is Kingly and Midas, bro. This is, this is Sparta. No, this is New York, bro. This is you, man. I fucking love it. [Speaker 1] (40:27 - 40:49) And I had no idea because I'm thinking I'm just a Libra and a Scorpio. Cause that's, I'm on the cusp of October 21st Libra and Scorpio. So I'm like, all right, I see the balance. I fight for fairness. And then I see the Scorpio side where I'm like very emotional, very deep thinking, you know what I mean? That's as much as I know. I never dug into astrology more than that. You know, the surface stuff. Yeah, man. [Speaker 3] (40:49 - 41:14) So yeah, Libra is your son. And that's kind of, that kind of rules how you're going to be in partnerships. And it's also indicates your destiny, but your core sense of self, the constellation that was actually visible in the sky on the night you were born was Aries bro. And Aries is, Aries is your energy, man. That's, and this is the highest like energy that we have to actually go and take control and be the leader and be the commander. You know what I mean? And this is, this is you, my brother. [Speaker 1] (41:15 - 43:51) That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. And I want to add to that. Like there's a part of the story that also I want to share with you guys and I don't share this publicly much, but I'm going to do it. But, so when I was around, I guess, 21, I had an experience with a plant teacher. You know, I had a, I don't know if you've heard of a visionary plant and, you know, I took this thing and this thing brought me to a place that like, I, I basically had this, this, this vision and it wasn't a vision to be honest. You know, when you have these spiritual experiences my, my body combined my, my spirit combined with this with this native American chief. Okay. And I don't know if he's native American, but he was an Indian chief. He merged with my soul. Okay. And he was a chief and he was a warrior. And when I felt that emergence, I, I had this, like, I left that experience, like feeling like, like a leader, like a chief leader of a warrior tribe, you know, and it was about wisdom and it was about about worry, but I didn't have no idea what my future was going to be after that, but it makes so much sense. Now it clicks. But during that experience, my body became a ball of energy. I totally lost. I was not my body. I became this ball of energy spinning around. I was made of billions of stars and it shot up into space really fast. And as this happened I knew that I started this, this chief was telling me how the universe was created. And he was telling me and my friend who was observing me at the time he was just there to watch me. He told me that, and I don't remember what I was telling him, but I basically told him how the universe was made, but it wasn't me speaking. It was like this, this native like chief of some sort telling him how the universe was created. It was unbelievable. But from that point on, I felt this confidence that I didn't have before because I was a shy kid. You know, I was pretty shy. I wouldn't talk much. I was just cool and just going with the flow. Always. I never wanted to stand out. I was always like, you know, I'm cool with everybody during school. I was quiet, you know, even high school was quiet. People knew me. I was cool with everybody, but I was always just moving around in waves. I don't want to rock the boat, but this thing created this warrior in me. And I was like, you know what? You know, this warrior is going to come out soon. And I just had this feeling inside, you know, I didn't know what was going to strike, but I knew it was coming in the future. That's incredible. [Speaker 2] (43:51 - 44:01) And just so everyone knows in part two, we're going to, we're going to learn how the universe was created. That's for our members. Okay. I know. [Speaker 1] (44:03 - 44:05) $9.99 to get. [Speaker 2] (44:06 - 44:12) I love it. To get the secrets of the universe, become a patron at here for the truth. Choose between three tiers. [Speaker 1] (44:16 - 44:37) So I know. I don't like talking about that because people are like, you know what I mean? When they hear things like that, they think, Oh, this guy's crazy or whatever, but that's the reality of the very spiritual person. I was into plants. I keep as you guys, as I told you, I was an urban studying plants. And when I found out about this plan, I'm like, wow, this is a shamanic plant, you know? And I was just. Just blown away by this. [Speaker 3] (44:38 - 45:01) You know, I've tried once in my life, I was in Canada, in an apartment with a bunch of dudes and it looked like the wall, the walls became the ground. And I thought I was, I was walking on the walls the entire time. I don't know how, what, what, what, how had, how legit it was. You know what I mean? Whatever, whatever substance I did take, but it's all right. It's terrible, terrible, terrible coming down from that. Yeah. [Speaker 2] (45:01 - 46:21) I actually only did it once too. And it was a friend of mine who actually is in LA right now. He's a New Yorker and he's here and he's supposed to come stay with me tomorrow. Haven't seen for a while. So just interesting synchronicity in that front, but, but yeah, man, listen, I understand why maybe you wouldn't tell a story like that. Well, but we're here for the truth and we can be real and like, you know, maybe offline or in part two, you know, I went down to the Amazon in 2008. I took a year off and backpacked around the globe, ended up spending time in Peru with some shamans and had some real out there. Interesting experiences, you know? But you know, there's just a lot that can't be explained, you know, from a rational Western scientific standpoint. So then it's like, what, not real. Like I'm going to discount your personal experience. And this is what we're dealing with in this whole vaccine issue is that mothers, parents, personal experiences are fucking just discounted and they're being gas lit and being like, no, what you saw, what you believed, what you felt is not the truth. We have the answer. And it's like, nah, man, each of us are individuals. We have our own experience, what we feel, what we see, what we connect to our intuition. And to just say, that's a lie. Why? Because it can't be fucking measured is, is ridiculous. [Speaker 1] (46:21 - 47:15) Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And we have our inner teachers, like our own bodies are telling us at all times. You just have to listen. There's so much wisdom in the body. And it's just, it's so hard to even graph with words, you know, like where this knowledge comes from and how we learn things and just all the things that happen. It's like, it's, it's just unreal, but yeah. And, and you know, people have experiences with plants like that. They'll do it once or twice and not really get the full, but the more you spend time, I've learned that the more you spend time with this plant and take your time to actually learn the right way, you start developing a deeper and deeper understanding. And you also understand yourself deeper because it gives you time to reflect and to go deeper when normally we don't, we're not used to doing that. So I've learned a lot from this plant. I actually became a better healer from this plant, just learn so many things. Like it's just, I could talk on and on. Maybe another time we'll talk about just that plant, you know? So I don't want to take the time. [Speaker 3] (47:15 - 48:01) Well, we're happy to go there, man. We're going to wrap up the first half of this public episode of the public side of this episode here. Just want to thank everyone that's tuned in thus far. We really appreciate you guys. We'd love for you to join our community and support independent alternate media. This is, this is where we need to go collectively is to, is to really get behind each other and those putting out alternative branches of information, because we honestly, we all, we all know cannot trust or rely on mainstream sources for any semblance of truth anymore. This is cozy. Go check him out on Instagram. His handle is cozy wellness on Instagram. Go connect, go get a vibe. And we'd love to see you on the other side. All right, guys. Take care. [Speaker 2] (48:04 - 48:51) What's up everybody. Welcome back to our patrons. We got cozy with us today, health freedom, activists, powerful motherfucker, as we learned in part one and yeah, man. So I want to, I want to kind of bring this back to the start of the pandemic, you know, New York city was like the epicenter, you know, obviously you had like Wuhan more than Italy and New York city where everyone was dying and you know, all these horrible things were going to happen. Like, what was that? Like, like knowing what you know and expecting what you expected to happen on some degree, what was that? Like, what were you witnessing? What, how are the people around you? How are friends of yours that maybe don't think in the same way? Like what was the experience of New York city during this at the beginning? [Speaker 1] (48:52 - 52:56) Great questions, man. I like where this is going. Okay. So yeah, I was, I was, it was my worst nightmare coming true, right? This was like the worst nightmare ever. And cause I knew where this was going. And even up to this point, I could say today, this is my worst nightmare coming true. Like this is exactly what my worst nightmare would be like, right. Forcing people to get vaccinated. Okay. So when it first happened the first thing that hit me was like when they enforced masks, right. They were like, okay, from now on, it's a law. You have to wear a mask on the trains. You have to wear a mask indoors. You have to stand six feet apart. I'm like, no, no, no, I'm not doing any of this shit the fuck out of here. Like, are you crazy? Like literally they're painting things on the floor selling you stand here. I'm like, that's not who I am, dude. I'm not going to stand where you tell me to stand. I'm not going to fucking put a cloth over my face. I'm not doing any of this shit. Fuck you. You know what I mean? Who the fuck do these people think they are? And I'm like, I'm getting angry. While people are frightened, I'm getting angry. I'm getting vicious. I'm like, what the, I'm going to rip your head off. Who's going to tell me to put a cloth mask on. So I'm like, so I'm in there. And at first I'm like, all right, for maybe a day, I get confused. I'm like, all right, you know is this really happening? Like did they, it's not that I wasn't scared of the virus per se, but I'm like, did they really create, and some, the scientists that I follow, he kind of had me thinking for a second is maybe I'm wrong and maybe he's right. It's like, maybe a day of that, right? He's like, he's saying, you know, this is a bioweapon maybe. And he's like, maybe they made this really strong to actually kill us. We don't know yet. And this was like early on. So, you know, I'm not going to blame him for that, but like I know it was early on and he was just being cautious. You know, he just wanted to know, all right, we know this shit came out of Wuhan. Did they design this to kill? And then he had me thinking like, wow, maybe this is really like we do have to be careful. But I'm like, nah, nah, they're full of shit. They planned this thing, you know? And I just went with my gut. I'm like, I'm not scared of this shit. So I was not wearing a mask. I went on the trains and people were looking at me like they wanted to kill me. And the day I get this look, but earlier on towards the middle of it, I would say people were getting very angry, like where people were approaching me, cursing at me. Like they were looking at me as I'm somebody that's selfish and trying to kill them because I don't have symptoms that can maybe pass on to them. I don't know what they're thinking, but, you know, they were scared of me. So I had several altercations, man, where it came close to me physically fighting. But, you know, the way I carry myself and the way I project myself, they were not going to touch me because I'm a short guy, man. I'm a short guy with glasses. I'm bald. I don't look too threatening. But when I get angry, I'm threatening because my energy, like, again, I'm a healer, but I can use that energy to push back. And my aura was like, like, I felt like I created an aura that was like a thousand men strong. You know what I mean? That's what I was projecting to these people. And when they were like, for instance, one day was like pretty crazy. Three of them surrounded me, basically yelling at me. This one African-American woman and this one gay guy and this one Hispanic guy come up and they're like, put on a mask. You know what I mean? You fucking asshole. They started cursing at me. I'm like, you know what? You put on a mask. I said, why don't you come fucking put it on me? You know what I mean? And they're like, when I said that, they were like taken back. Like, holy shit. Like they didn't say anything after that. I was like, you fucking, I went on and I fucking pussy, get the fuck out of here. You know what I mean? Anyway, the point is people were angry and this would not stop. Everywhere I would go, people were getting angry. The only time I put it on was when I had to go into a store. And, you know, I was trying the medical exemption at first, but they were like, I was saying I have a medical condition, but Whole Foods was not having it. I even had them call the cops to come in and the cop like didn't side with me. He's like, oh, they have, you know, that's their rules and stuff like that. I'm like, I have a medical condition. [Speaker 2] (52:57 - 52:58) I don't know the law, man. [Speaker 1] (52:58 - 53:28) No, but at first I was having difficulty and I would give up. I was like, fuck it, man. God damn it. So I would put it up to like here. I would never fully and I would get in and get what I needed. But then after a while, I learned like just to hold my ground. After I learned how to hold my ground, I just went in there. I said, I have a medical condition. I was not backing down. And then finally they would let me in, you know, after, you know, going over hiring it fucking wore me down. But I made it a point. I'm like, you know what, we can't allow this shit, you know, anyway. So besides that, yeah. What else did you want me to go into? [Speaker 2] (53:28 - 54:58) Well, no, I mean, I was just curious. I was actually going to ask you before about that because I've seen you post on social media, like pictures of like people in the subways. You know, they're everyone's wearing a mask, except maybe one or two people. And I was curious what your experience was. But even just like what did you witness in New York? Like are people in your family on the same tip as you? Are your friends, like did you lose friends as you started speaking out more? Because there's one thing about speaking out against religious exemptions a couple of years ago versus like the big PSYOP, the big like this has changed everything. I mean, there are people who are like anti-vax but became pro-vax for fucking COVID. There are people who are into holistic health. I mean, I know chiropractors. I know Chinese medicine doctors that are like telling their practitioner or telling their clients to get the jab. So it's like this whole thing has been a completely different mindfuck. So I'm curious, like your experience as a holistic health practitioner, what did you see in New York? Did you see people who, you know, New York's primarily liberal, man. I mean, we could get into the politics here. You know, New York's primarily leftist. So this whole issue has become politicized. So that's the thing that totally was like was so weird, like Twilight Zone to just observe. It's like rational, intelligent people that I know in my life that are just like, but the TV and but my side, but orange man bad. But, you know, so like what's your experience around that? [Speaker 1] (54:59 - 56:35) Yeah, it's interesting that you said it like that because in the beginning when Trump was pushing the vaccine, right? The liberals were we have videotape of Cuomo and a lot of liberals saying we're not going to take that shot that Donald Trump shot. You know what I mean? And it's like and then the liberals like, yeah, yeah. The people I work with, you know, health care people, they were like, yeah, I'm not taking that shot. It needs to be tested. But no, no, I'm not, you know. And then the minute he gets out of office and then now it's a new person. That's their team. Like you said, their team is in now. They're like, yeah, that's totally safe. Totally safe. But yeah, I'm not in the absolute worst city to be in for somebody like me. It's like but again, like I think I was meant to be here. You know, I mean, I think like you guys said about stars and like I think the stars were aligned for me to be here because I needed to be that warrior. I needed to I needed to feel this part of history. And I think that this is a place where I have to unfortunately like because I don't like this. I don't like to feel angry. I'm a healer. I'm a loving person. I don't want to be angry at people. I don't want to be. But we have to be angry at people because these people are new world order. Disgusting, vile. They're I don't know what to call them, but they're creatures. They're not human. They're they want to destroy humans. They want to kill us. They want to depopulate us. And I'm not sugarcoating this. I'm not being hyperbolic. They want to kill you. They want to murder you. They want to make you sick. They hate all creation, anything that's loving, anything that is giving birth and healing and nurturing. They want to destroy because they have this evil, almost like a religion. [Speaker 3] (56:36 - 57:17) It's anti life on every level, man. And like how this doesn't rile up people more knowing what they know and knowing that the actual mindset of these people is to kill you is the worst for you and your family. Like, I mean, sometimes I feel like that energy and the resistance just isn't there. You know what I mean? I want to read this tweet from Zuby. He said, if Donald Trump had pushed for vaccine passports, then 100 percent of Americans who are currently in favor of them would be opposed to them. And 100 percent of Americans who are currently opposed to them would still be opposed to them. It's just so fucking true, bro. [Speaker 1] (57:18 - 57:25) Totally true. And I had a thought, I just forgot. But anyway, yeah, keep it going. What's going on? [Speaker 3] (57:26 - 57:53) Yeah, I was basically just this mind virus, which the left has infected everyone with. You know what I mean? And I mean, the whole concept of the left has completely changed. It's completely shifted. And the way this particular political system was used and subverted. It's almost like it was precisely for this event for them to then bring in the trigger, which was COVID, to activate all of this, all this fucking ridiculousness. [Speaker 1] (57:54 - 58:45) That's what I said about friendships and stuff. Yeah. Like a lot of friendships were hurt. People started looking at me differently. But luckily, I have really good friends that I've kept in touch with since little. I've had really good friends. So no matter what, our friendship is always strong. But there's been times where people are second guessing or getting upset. I don't really keep people around like that. My family is on board. Like I said, my mother, father, sister, they all know about this. I've been teaching them about vaccines forever. And so they know what's up so that we're all on the same page. I try to tell them I'm warning them to let's get the hell out of New York, but they're a little slower about that. If it was up to me, if I was single right now, I'd be out of here in a heartbeat. [Speaker 2] (58:46 - 58:48) Where would you go? That's the question. [Speaker 1] (58:49 - 59:53) Where would I go? Well, for now, I would have to make two stops. I think for now I'd go to Florida because I like the vibe there in terms of what's happening and the political climate. It's everything I believe is there. Like the fact that that governor said, you know, I'm outlawing passports, I'm outlawing masks or whatever. At least he's saying, even though he's not like maybe it's not going to fully go into fruition. I don't know. But, you know, he's he's doing his part, I think. And I'm not somebody who's just believing in him because I don't believe in anything. But for now, he's talking the game. And I like that he's trying that, at least from that angle. So I like where Florida is heading. I don't think it's going to be a safe state for too long. I think that we have to go Midwest somewhere. I think Montana, South Dakota. Those are the more rigorous, like, you know, America. That's like full freedom America. You know, you got to go to somewhere like Wyoming, maybe or like, you know, South Dakota, Wyoming. And that's not a place where I think of going to, you know what I mean? It's like, oh, who wants to go there? But that's the Wild West, baby. And that's where the cowboys are. [Speaker 2] (59:53 - 1:00:22) So this is another important question I have for you. So what Greek god are you a lineage of? And do you have the blood of that has allowed you to survive this deadly virus without wearing a mask and without getting the jab? I just want to know. So I think all our audience wants to know, you know, because it's a miracle. First of all, you're still alive that you've been going to subways. You've been going to Whole Foods without without a mask. Like, please enlighten us on your superpowers. [Speaker 1] (1:00:26 - 1:00:56) Because I'm not poisoned as much. I try to, you know, I'm careful with my diet. And you know what? It's not even all that, because guess what? I've seen overweight, unhealthy people getting COVID and recovering right before my eyes. So it's not like it's not that this dangerous virus that's going to kill you. Because if I see overweight, like obese people getting it, people with diabetes, people with all these conditions, they're recovering from it. And 99.9% of the people who got COVID recovered without any medical intervention. [Speaker 2] (1:00:56 - 1:01:16) So that's even another conversation recovering from it. What is it? You know, it's a whole nother conversation, which we don't have to get into now. But it's just like there is in my view is like what causes disease and what causes symptoms is so different than what we've been conditioned and trained to believe for decades or centuries. [Speaker 1] (1:01:16 - 1:02:29) And, you know, I have multiple layers. I'm not going to say I know what it is. I'm not going to be that arrogant, but there's several different thoughts I have. Right. One, it might not be a virus. You know, it might just be that you're toxic. It might be that your terrain is just and I know that's what it is. I mean, that part I know for sure. It's always about your terrain. Right. So it's about how strong your body is, how resilient you are, depending on, you know, your microbiome, how healthy your bacteria is, you know, how many essential nutrients you're getting every day, how much rest you're getting, how much exercise you're getting, how much love you're getting in your life, how much time you're spending in nature, how much sun you're getting. You know, there's all this layers of all these things. So if you if you're doing all the right things like what I just mentioned, you're not drinking alcohol, you're not smoking cigarettes. Right. You're not taking prescription drugs or recreational drugs regularly. You're going to be healthier. You're going to be able to be more resilient. And if you have a fucked up relationship or you're arguing with your loved ones, that's going to cause, you know, issues for you because your spirit is going to be crushed and your emotions will be all over the place. You're going to be more susceptible to getting sick. [Speaker 2] (1:02:29 - 1:04:39) Yeah, I think that's a big piece, too, is the nature of the psyche. You know, if you're living in fear, you know, what what what is what is living in an elevated sympathetic state on a regular basis? Like what impact is that is that going to have down the road? You know, and so like you said, I agree, there's so many factors that determine why a person because I'm right there with you, man. I haven't followed pretty much any of these mandates and I've interacted with people and even my parents. My dad's 91 years old. You know, my mom is late 70s. No, they now they watch the news. They're old school Greeks, you know, but, you know, they haven't they haven't succumbed to the jab. And they flew out from Jersey to here to L.A. and then back to Jersey and then into Greece. And my dad's 91. He's had one one vaccine his whole life, a flu shot that almost killed him 25 years ago. And it's like, can someone tell me why he's still alive? Please, someone someone who's so intelligent and has all these letters after their name, you know, can say, how is this man who's 91 years old who hasn't followed the model of Western medicine to a certain degree? Obviously, he's had he's had some issues with his heart and he had surgery. But I mean, in terms of that, like that, he's not up to date. Like, how is he still alive and hasn't been overtaken by all these viruses? You know, it's like they don't have the answer. They don't have the answer. So it's it's I think resilience is huge, man, the way an individual builds resilience in their life. And like both my parents are super resilient. You know, they came to they came from Greece with nothing. They came from Greece to here with nothing and worked their butts off. And we live in a culture where it's like resilience is not encouraged. It's like victimhood is encouraged. You know, being a badass warrior and having personal responsibility and being healthy and not needing other people when it comes to health is like is like not encouraged. You know, I mean, it's like, oh, what problems you have. OK, let's bond over our misery. Let's bond over our sickness. Let's bond over our problems. You know, so it's like these we're not in our schooling, in our culture, in our society. We're not encouraged. We're not educated to be these warriors, man. We're we're trained. We're entrained to be fucking not resilient. [Speaker 1] (1:04:41 - 1:06:35) That's so true. They want you to be weak, especially in New York. I learned that because you can't have a gun. You can't even have you can't order pepper spray. You can't have a taser. I'm like, what the hell? You can't have a knife over a certain amount. Like, do you want us to be victims? Is that I mean, that's what that's telling me, that you want me to be a victim. I don't want to have to rely on a police officer. I want to have I want to have a knife. I want to have a knife. I want to have a gun. I want to have you know what I mean? And I'm not into guns, but I understand. I'm just putting that out there. It's like they want you vulnerable. Right. Like I'm in pepper spray. Come on. Like, what's what's that all about? You know what I mean? Like, why can't I have pepper spray? Why can't I have a bulletproof vest? You know what I mean? If I want to wear a bulletproof vest, why can't I have it? It's very strange, you know. But I want to also take it back to because you said something about, you know, the other elements of this whole thing was about fear and fear. We know the fight or flight response lowers your immunity. When you're scared, it lowers your immunity. So imagine every two to three minutes we're hearing COVID, COVID, COVID deaths, COVID cases, cases, cases. Wear a mask. Vaccines coming. The vaccine's coming. You know what I mean? All this shit. All you're seeing is images of death, sickness, disease. This thing has been repeating for almost two years now. So imagine. And the posters and the propaganda and the actresses and the actors and the cartoons telling the kids and we're getting hit. You can't go a day without hearing. You can't even go five minutes without hearing the word COVID. OK, so imagine what this is doing to people who are actually scared and believed into this hype and the propaganda. They believed it. They're terrified. That's why they're so angry when they see people like you and me without masks. They think that we're killers, that we're here to kill them. And that's the divide that's been created. And people like us also have the fight or flight response activated. But we're scared of another reason. We're not scared of the virus. We're scared of the government and how far they're going. But we both are on fight or flight for different reasons. [Speaker 2] (1:06:37 - 1:07:28) And hence the key why it's so important to be as healthy as you can and heal your trauma and do your inner work. So then when you're faced with this, you can be more neutral. And then part of the growth and part of building resilience is standing up for yourself. Because when you stand up to authority, all your trauma from your childhood is going to come right up to the surface. Because from day one we've been conditioned to, like, mommy and daddy knows. Listen to mommy and daddy. You go to school. You can't even get up to go to the bathroom without fucking getting a hall pass or raising your hand or whatever. So it's like we've been trained from day one to be submissive, to listen to authority, to not listen to ourselves, to not trust ourselves, to ask for permission. And so when we get to this place where you stand up, all that shit's going to bubble up. And so that's the work. The work is to stand up little by little. Joel, you were about to say something before. I don't know if you wanted to. [Speaker 3] (1:07:28 - 1:08:34) Yeah, I was going to bring in this idea, which kind of indicates the fact that we were primed to be so passive at this point in time. I've got this quote by Colin Wilson from New Pathways in Psychology. He says, one of the most urgent problems for civilized man. He has created civilization to give himself security. Security for what? For boredom? His chief problem seems to be that most human beings need a certain amount of challenge of external stimulus to stop them from sinking into the blank stare and blank consciousness of the idiots. Right. And this is the thing, because for most of civilization up until 100, 150 years ago, when the second Industrial Revolution happened, people were toiling from dawn to dusk to survive for stimulus, for challenge, to do something. Right. Then all of a sudden we had the leisure revolution where for the first time in human history, people had scheduled times for leisure, for rest and for relaxation and to do nothing. And this is kind of where we see the decline of men and his psychology has gone for for tyrannical governments to now come and be like, all right, let's let's fill in that space for you. [Speaker 1] (1:08:37 - 1:08:56) Very true, man. It makes a lot of sense, right? Because we wanted safety and this is what we got. You want safety, then you're going to get tyranny. You're going to be told when to go outside. And it's pretty crazy in Australia. I haven't caught up to the latest rules, but I would love for you to fill me in on that. If you want to do that later or now, it's up to you. [Speaker 3] (1:08:56 - 1:10:10) For sure, man. I mean, Australia definitely seems to have been the place where this is coming in hardest and farthest, fastest to kind of be the model for everywhere else. You know, I'm in Sydney. It's a bit more intense in Melbourne, but they're standing up a lot more than we are. We're now in the 11th week of a lockdown. It's been over two months at this point in time. You can't, some of the rules over the course of this period, which have been chopping and changing is you can't be outside unless you're exercising. You can't be outside for more than an hour. We've had curfews between 9pm and 5am. I received a fine for being outside and being stationary, not exercising. All shops are closed. Construction industry has closed unless you get vaccinated. The only retail open are the ones owned by West Farmers, which basically are owned by Blackrock being the major, major big retailers. We call them Woolworths, Bunnings, etc, etc. The middle class has been completely flattened and completely destroyed. I've got to go get illegal haircuts. This haircut was done illegally in my father's house because he got it at a shop front. [Speaker 1] (1:10:11 - 1:10:33) How did Australia get to this point is what I want to know. That's what I'm always trying to figure out because I knew they were tyrannical 10 years ago because I remember when Dr. Tenpenny tried to fly in there, they were preventing her from coming into the country. They were like, you can't come here and talk to us. I'm like, wow, that's pretty crazy. So I don't know too much about Australian government to know how they got to this point. [Speaker 3] (1:10:33 - 1:11:08) They took our guns off us in the 90s. I think that was one of the key events that people should take notice of. Remember, this began as an island for prisoners, as an island for convicts. That's how the modern Australian nation post the Indigenous actually began. That's what we are. With me, I feel like we were always, but it was under the cover, we were always going to be the poster boy for the globalist agenda. It was always going to be the place where they would pull the strings tightest when the time came. [Speaker 1] (1:11:09 - 1:11:20) Why are Australians so submissive is what I want to know. How are they allowing this to happen? If somebody's telling you, you can't leave your house, do the people believe this stuff? Most of them, you would think? [Speaker 3] (1:11:21 - 1:12:11) Yeah, for the most part, Australia is very much under the spell of for the greater good, tall poppy syndrome, we're all mates, we're all in this together. And that's the way they've pitched it to Australians is that we've just got to band together to get through this, you know what I mean? And it's just kind of that look the other way kind of thing. On the other side of this man, Australians are rising up as well. We're seeing in Melbourne now, which is basically a war zone, we're seeing protesters really banding together and stepping up. I mean, you got the riot squad now shooting rubber bullets at mums and dads attending these protests who are unarmed. These are scenes which we never thought that we would expect to see in Australia, something that you'd expect to see in China. [Speaker 1] (1:12:11 - 1:12:13) Maybe I should come out there and help you guys. [Speaker 3] (1:12:13 - 1:12:34) Yeah, man, we need you on board, bro. But what I'm noticing is that it is, man, for the most part, it is the wogs that are standing up, right? It is the immigrants, it is the ones that have actually still have that fire and have that realisation that, you know what I mean? We've kind of seen this on some level before to some extent. [Speaker 2] (1:12:36 - 1:12:50) Our next guest, we'll get deep into Australia that we're interviewing, he's like one of the OG political analysts in Australia. So, you know, you could check out the first half of that episode. And if you want to become a patron to see the second half, you can support us. [Speaker 1] (1:12:52 - 1:13:01) I want to interview Joe now, because I think my audience would love to hear the Australian side of it. You know, we haven't had any Australians come and talk to us, so that'd be cool. [Speaker 3] (1:13:02 - 1:13:10) It'll be my pleasure to jump on with you, man. Yeah, for sure, bro. Absolutely. I mean, it's wild, bro. What can I say, man? [Speaker 1] (1:13:10 - 1:13:16) We can't let this happen, though, man. I think people are going to snap. I think they're snapping now, right? [Speaker 3] (1:13:16 - 1:13:39) Everyone has their limits. Everyone has their limits, right? And this is what I keep holding on to is that the more ridiculous this charade gets, eventually you're going to awaken and you're going to make everyone blink twice. I don't care how asleep you are. Eventually, this is going to come to you and your doorstep. There's going to be a point where you're going to join us and you're going to fucking join the resistance and realise because everyone truly does have their limits, bro. That's what I believe. [Speaker 1] (1:13:40 - 1:14:06) This is a message to you tyrants in Australia. Tyrants, just back down now because it's going to, you know, I'm not going to say anymore. I'm not going to say anymore. It's not going to be pretty, people. When people finally snap and realise that the show is over, like the jig is up, you know, they're going to be pissed off, especially the ones that figure out now. Like, I don't know if they're going to be able to. Like, I think if you haven't figured it out by this point, you're not going to figure it out maybe, you know, but hopefully I'm wrong. [Speaker 3] (1:14:06 - 1:15:08) But I mean, I'm seeing people who I thought would never figure out starting to figure it out. You know what I mean? So I do believe that people can get there. But one message that I have to every single fucking business that is now promoting the discrimination and the segregation in Australia or anywhere in the world, we are going to remember this isn't going to last forever. You know what I mean? So I think everyone needs to make their decisions of where they stand in history very wisely at this point in time. Because if you make your decision in alignment with the regime of tyranny that's going on, which is going to fall, this charade is going to collapse, people are going to know where you stood at this at that point. You know what I mean? So be careful. Seriously, everyone needs to be very, very, very, very careful because they're forcing us to make decisions at this point in time. Right? So if you're not making your decisions from the place of morality and from value and from the intrinsic nature of you as a human, then there's going to be consequences. Even though you're not going to get the immediate consequences, because you're sucking dad's dick right now, there are going to be consequences. [Speaker 1] (1:15:09 - 1:15:10) Oh, he went there. [Speaker 2] (1:15:11 - 1:15:12) Yeah. [Speaker 1] (1:15:12 - 1:15:13) Yeah. [Speaker 2] (1:15:13 - 1:15:15) This is how we roll in here. You know what I'm saying? [Speaker 1] (1:15:16 - 1:15:23) Suck a kangaroo dick. Is that racist? You racist against Australians? [Speaker 2] (1:15:24 - 1:15:33) Yeah, so cozy, man. How do you feel about Cuomo de Blasio? How do you feel about those cats? [Speaker 1] (1:15:33 - 1:15:40) That name, I get so angry. I become Incredible Hulk. Don't say his name. [Speaker 2] (1:15:40 - 1:15:43) How many times have you tweeted at Cuomo? [Speaker 1] (1:15:44 - 1:16:50) They hate me. His administration, they know about me, man. It's so funny. I won't get into that. But basically, they know that I'm a problem. They knew that and they were trying to pretty much, you know, so I heard. They have people putting fake comments to make him look better and to kind of make him look like the people are loving him to counteract all these negative, you know, tweets that were coming from me and many others in my group, you know, so I was attacking him hard. As you guys probably saw, sometimes I was being funny, vicious, whatever it was, I was coming at him like every like maybe multiple times a day at some time, sometimes that I knew the reason I did it. So I knew he was reading them. I knew that people were like Twitter is the place where you want attention. Like if you want politicians to see that and they really care about what you say, because they don't like you affect them because they're like, oh, shit, the public's watching these and I can't delete these. You know, they can't delete comments on Twitter, right? As far as I know, they can't delete them. So they're there. You know, I found that as a powerful tool. [Speaker 3] (1:16:50 - 1:16:55) Do you guys have like freedom rallies in New York? Like what's activism like in New York at the moment? [Speaker 1] (1:16:56 - 1:19:39) Yeah, man, like we're, you know, it's definitely growing. I'm so happy. Like a year ago, a year and a half ago when I started talking, there's a place around here called Union Square. And when I was talking, there was like 10 people in the audience, 12 people in the audience, right? And now it's grown to the last one I went to, I think we had at least, I don't, it's hard for me to gauge, but it seemed like it was at least 4000 to 5000 people surrounding Times Square. It was a huge march. This march is going viral. I'm seeing people reposting this stuff. I'm seeing people repost my speeches. And I'm like, wow, like I'm seeing my speeches on TikTok from like random people that I don't even know about. And I'm like, holy shit, you know, our movement is growing. I mean, I'm on the train. The last maybe six months now, six, seven months, I'm walking around New York and people are recognizing me. They're like, holy shit, cozy. They're like, they're coming up to me. And I'm shocked. I'm in Manhattan. I'm in Brooklyn. I've been seen in the Bronx. I've been seen on Long Island. People are like, like, I feel like a superstar. Like people are like, oh, I can take, you know, I can drive you to the ferry. And I'm like, oh, that's awesome. You know what I mean? And like, I'm meeting people on the subway. They're coming up to me like, are you cozy from Cozy's Wellness? And like, they're taking selfies with me. And it's like, this shows to me like how people are like we're growing as a movement. If people are recognizing somebody like me, it's like, wow, the message is out there. You know, and it makes me feel really happy. And it gives me a sign and it gives me hope that, you know what, change is coming. People are aware, you know, and yes, the crowds are getting a lot bigger, a lot bigger and people are noticing them. So I'm very happy for that. Something has awoken in New York. And I think the fact that now it's hitting home, people were, they knew about it. But now that it's hitting their pocketbooks and they're about to be fired, now seeing the people come out. And now I believe the true warriors are coming out. When you put their feet to the fire, they're going to awaken. And I'm seeing some very angry mothers. You know, the men are coming out because usually the women were only coming out to these protests. Now we're seeing men coming out. And I'm telling you, once we organize and once the division stops, I'm trying to unite people. That's why in several speeches of mine, I'm telling them, you know, I'm pointing out how many people are from different areas. I'm actually I do it on purpose so that the narrative doesn't get changed by the media. I immediately started saying, you know, how many African-Americans in the audience raise their hand and they're raising their hand. How many Latinos, how many European, how many Korean, Japanese, Chinese? Like I'm trying to hit from every angle. So when that fake news is out there, like the New York Times and like, you know, all these other outlets that are watching us and taping us. I make sure to say that so they cannot switch the narrative. They're trying to paint it. Oh, it's white Trump supporters, you know. [Speaker 2] (1:19:40 - 1:19:42) MAGA, it's another MAGA rally. [Speaker 1] (1:19:42 - 1:19:54) Don't be any freak. No. What I see is a lot of Latinos. And that makes me happy when I see a lot like most of our crowd is Latino. So they can't they can't hit that narrative. They can't switch it. But of course, they try. [Speaker 2] (1:19:55 - 1:20:35) How do these people who are the woke, the wokesters, as I like to call them, like can like rationalize the fact that you have the black community and the Latino community that have the lowest vaccination rates. So these are the people that are going to be impacted the most by by vaccine mandates. So they're not going to be able to go into restaurants. So they're literally going to be discriminated. It's literally the the new Jim Crow. But then black lives matter. Latino lives matters like like do they even see it? Are they even aware of the fact that the black population, Latino population are the least vaccinated? Like how do they compute that in their minds? [Speaker 1] (1:20:37 - 1:21:43) I don't know. I don't know. That's a great question. And the fact is, I just read somewhere like Black Lives Matter is even starting to get upset and they're calling it a racist agenda. I didn't look into it more, but I'm happy to hear that. And I know when the time comes, they're going to get full pushback because once people realize like some and I'm not criticizing anybody, I'm never going to point fingers at anybody. Somebody needs to make that choice for themselves. Hey, that's their choice. Right. But when they're forced into a position where, you know, they they're going to lose their job and, you know, they're maybe it's a single mom or whatever. She has to do what she has to do, whatever. You know, you've got to do what you've got to do to survive. But that person is never going to forget that. The fact that they were forced to do something against their will, they're going to be angry and eventually that anger is going to crack. And that's what I'm saying is when people had enough, like once you see the next round of boosters come and then the next round and the next round every year getting hit, eventually they're going to say, you know what? Fuck this shit. Fuck you. And then that's when we're going to see people fight back. I think especially when if they get injured or a family member gets injured, that's going to be the thing that cracks them. [Speaker 2] (1:21:44 - 1:22:12) Yeah. I already see it here. You know, Los Angeles, you have people that are like, all right, cool. I wanted to go to the store. I wanted to travel, you know, et cetera, et cetera. Like, OK, I got the vaccine, but like boosters, are you fucking kidding me? I got to take another like, fuck this shit. So I think a lot of people are at like after they got the one, whether it was J&J or the two of the mRNA jabs, like they're like, I'm done with this shit. So, you know, people aren't having it, man. Yeah. I mean, some are, you know, obviously some are, but a lot aren't. [Speaker 1] (1:22:12 - 1:22:38) I work with a guy who got it because he was forced. He didn't want to lose his job. He works with me and he took it. And guess what? It was a few months ago he took it. And now he just got sick with COVID. His whole family got sick with COVID and he got sick. And he's like, he looked at me, he's like, I'm vaccinated. I don't know how this happened. You know what I mean? I was like, what do you mean you didn't know how it happened? It doesn't fucking work, asshole. Like I fucking told you, I've been telling you this shit for a year. [Speaker 2] (1:22:39 - 1:22:45) And you're getting injected with God knows what. So what impact is that happening, having on your biology? [Speaker 1] (1:22:45 - 1:23:51) And then he heard about the booster. Fuck that. I'm not getting no boosters. Fuck that. He's like, so now like people, I mean, he says that, but I don't know if he's really going to do it. But some people are going to really do it. Some people are going to say, fuck that no more. That's it. I just wish they had the balls. Listen, I always say this. About 50 percent of Americans don't want it. OK, and if they all just stood up and said no, their plan would crumble. I keep saying this in my speeches. Their plan would crumble. Their plan would fail. You just got to have the balls, fucking men out there. Stand the fuck up. Say no. If we all said it, whole police department, fire departments, sanitation departments, you know, all types of unions, men, stand the fuck up. If you say no, it's over. They don't have power over you. That's the fucking mind game. They're like there's like 10 of these motherfuckers. OK, and we're like millions of us, millions. Just stand the fuck up. What's the worst that can happen? What are they going to do to you? What are they going to do to you? Fuck them. Stop following their fucking orders. They just said in New York, we're going to start the fucking fines. Yeah, I want to see you try to give me a fine. Fuck you, too. I'm not fucking putting it on. I'm not. I'm not. [Speaker 2] (1:23:53 - 1:23:54) I love you, bro. [Speaker 1] (1:23:54 - 1:23:57) Yeah, I love you, too, man. [Speaker 2] (1:23:57 - 1:23:58) Awesome. [Speaker 1] (1:23:58 - 1:24:06) I have an awesome show going on. I like I like your setup and I like the questions you're asking and how you're moving the dialogue. You guys are very talented for doing that. [Speaker 2] (1:24:07 - 1:24:22) Thanks, man. We you know, we just come together. We realize we had a mission and we wanted to do this. And we're just a couple of dudes doing our part to to shine a light on people like yourself and that are that are fighting for truth and fight for freedom. And that's it. [Speaker 1] (1:24:22 - 1:24:23) Really appreciate that. [Speaker 3] (1:24:23 - 1:25:25) And that's the silver lining in all this, man. I think we're all becoming activated to play our part the way we're meant to play our part in some kind of way. You know what I mean? Because it matters now. It didn't it didn't really matter before. Now it's now we're on that hill, bro. You know, so I feel like literally, man, all these people on an authentic journey from around the world are like, OK, what is my role? You know, and they're fully stepping into that. And, you know, I mean, it's people that they're not going to be able to contain what's coming. I do not believe it. I will never buy into the doom and gloom and not for a fucking second. This war is primarily psychological. Right. If everyone's fucking turned off their TV, then 70 to 80 percent of the problem would disappear. You know what I mean? Even in America. Right. Obviously, L.A. and New York are the other blue states which are pushing it the hardest. It's just the perception. It's just the perception because it's these major cities, these major hubs. I've heard I've heard. I don't know if you can confirm this, but like for the most part, the middle of America is completely against it. Is that right? [Speaker 1] (1:25:25 - 1:25:56) Yeah. Yeah. They're not locking down. They're not wearing masks. I can tell you that I have a friend who moved out of this tyranny. He was living in Ithaca, New York, which was very like liberal, woke crowd. It was beyond bearable, he said. And he fucking left because he's a nurse. He was a nurse and he wouldn't even accept a test. The minute they mandated the test, he left. Now he's in Arizona. He's like it doesn't even feel like I haven't felt like I was in a pandemic like for more than a year now. You know, so he's totally chill. He's like, you need to get the fuck out of New York, man. [Speaker 2] (1:25:57 - 1:27:08) You know, it's got to be a mindfuck because even in California, within California, different counties, it's different. So it's like that's what makes this so ridiculous and hilarious is that depending on where you are, you know, your experience, your your experience of reality is completely different. So like what the science in L.A. County versus the science in Orange County is different. Like it's so silly to me, man, or how they make these mandates like now at 10 o'clock, you're going to have to wear a mask. Like, OK, so the science changes at 10 o'clock, you know, like like none of this makes sense. And yet people like good little soldiers, because like Joel said before, they're they're sucking the dick of government or sucking the tit of government, whatever you want to call it. They're just going along, you know, and we can go into all the reasons why some people can can can conform and others don't. But like just that alone, like, yeah, you know, football games in like Tennessee and Texas and and MMA matches in Florida. Like what's like someone explain that? [Speaker 1] (1:27:08 - 1:27:55) So many things, right, like you could see like on an airplane, like before you get on the airplane, stand six feet apart and then you're like crammed in a fucking vessel that has no circulation. It's like you fucking dick. You can't fucking realize this. And then like you're going to a restaurant and you sit down, you could take off the mask when you sit. So the virus knows like, you know, four foot and under. It's going to fucking attack. It's not going to attack you because it's like it knows not to fuck with you. And then it like fucks with you when you're taller. Like shut up, man. You fucking pussies fucking wake out of it, snap out of it. You fucking idiots. I'm done. I'm done. You fucking idiots. You're ruining society. You're ruining fucking humanity. You're ruining our freedoms and liberties for our future. So now you are my fucking enemy. That's right. I look at you as a fucking enemy. OK, I'm not going to be nice. [Speaker 2] (1:27:56 - 1:28:43) I hear you, man, because that's an interesting thing, too, because there's also people. No, no, I fucking love you, dude. Like it's that Greek. It's that East Coast, man. Like I'm Greek for eight years. Like I knew this. I knew this conversation was going to be fucking fire. And there'd be F-bombs being dropped left and right because fuck it, dude. And this is the thing is like we've gotten soft, man. And then especially with like the new age movement and etc. Everyone's like, oh, we all have to get along. We all have to just accept one another. And it's like now we don't try and fucking take my freedoms away. If you're trying to poison me and my family, if you're trying to segregate me and quarantine me. And I'm just going to be like, yeah, that's OK. We're all in this together. We're all in this together. Like look at that, dude. Evil doesn't get a pass. [Speaker 1] (1:28:43 - 1:29:04) I know. It's craziness, man. Unbelievable. And what the hell is public health anyway? I haven't thought about that word. Public health. Like there's no such thing as public health. What does that even mean? Like that's ridiculous. Public health. Like, no, it's my health. If I'm healthy, I'm good. I don't need you. I don't need to rely on you. If you're sick, you're sick. You're not fucking affecting me. [Speaker 2] (1:29:04 - 1:29:06) Health is individual. It's not collective. [Speaker 1] (1:29:07 - 1:29:16) Yeah. So I'm going to exercise for you. Like, what is that? Like soon they're going to tell us that you have to exercise because I got to make sure I'm getting enough exercise. Like, what is that? [Speaker 2] (1:29:17 - 1:29:47) The reality is this. None of this makes sense. Like anyone who's just able to just take a step back. Separate from the dogma and the conditioning. And just look over a couple of the things. I'm not even saying go down the rabbit hole of vaccines and study the science. Like just even what you said before. Hi, you're at the host stand. Excuse me, but you have to wear a mask while you walk to your table. You know, like even that, like someone explain how that makes sense. [Speaker 1] (1:29:48 - 1:30:49) But you're right. Just the surface stuff alone on its face. You can't fucking question that. I'm not asking you to tell me whether there's a virus or not. Or, you know, how, you know, vaccine science. Don't even go into that. Just that fucking one thing alone, like you said. You know, just standing on a line or like standing six feet apart. Like you don't have symptoms, but you could spread the disease. Does that make any sense? You fucking cockbuckers. Like how the fuck, let me stop cursing, but you fucking idiot. Honestly, like what's wrong with you? And I think it's intentionally done. I think it's intentionally done as stupid as it is, just to kind of put us in this hypnosis and getting us used to and normalizing non-rational thoughts to be facts. You know what I mean? The fact that they keep repeating this and repeating this and repeating this. And it doesn't matter if it makes sense. Just follow us because I'm Dr. Fauci and I have a PhD and I'm an infection control expert. And you know what I mean? Follow me and listen to me. The top scientists, the CDC, the FDA, the CDC, and you're hypnotized. They must know better than I do. [Speaker 2] (1:30:51 - 1:31:01) And they want to confuse you. This is why they always change the rules and change the game. Because if you're in a state of confusion, you're going to look externally for the answers. Yeah. [Speaker 1] (1:31:02 - 1:31:08) And you'll do that because they're the ones who said it. Oh, they must know some new research. No, stupid. Virus research hasn't changed. [Speaker 3] (1:31:11 - 1:31:46) Yeah, man. I hear you. I can't find it now, but it's something like the goal of communist propaganda is to appear as ridiculous as, as possible. You know what I mean? I can't remember how it ends. I wish I could find it, but we're seeing it in full fucking swing. I mean, just the simple fact that they're asking you to take an untested on trial experimental injection. So you can go and earn an income, something that hasn't even been tested on an animal. You are the initial Guinea pig for this. And they're forcing this on you to go and earn an income. Just look at fucking that. [Speaker 1] (1:31:47 - 1:32:47) And they see your face and they tell you to your face. Oh, it's not going to stop transmission. So why the fuck am I taking it? You know, ridiculous. Ridiculous. And remember this crazy. And I was saying, like, I was just joking about a year ago. Right. And I was like, I like pretty soon. I'm like, you know, sooner or later, they're going to just, you know, shove things up your ass. You know what I mean? You're going to just do it. And then it came out like the Chinese government. Remember they were doing this for a while. I don't know if they're still doing it, but they said, oh, we're going to start doing anal probes for people, for visitors outside of the country. They literally were swabs of people's asses and saying, you can get a better test from there. I'm like, what the fuck? And then the Japanese government wrote a letter to the Chinese government said, you know, our, our citizens feel, I forgot the word he said, like, oh, humiliated, humiliated. And they feel there was a word that they said that I'm forgetting right now, but whatever they felt humiliated and disrespected, I guess. Violated. Violated. Yeah. Can you stop doing this to your citizen? Then they said, no. They said, we won't, we're going to keep shoving fucking swabs up your ass. [Speaker 2] (1:32:47 - 1:32:52) Well, I think shoving swabs up your ass is a great place to end this talk. [Speaker 1] (1:32:57 - 1:33:06) The fact that that is okay for anybody. You know what I mean? Turn around all the unvaccinated are getting swabbed up their ass. Like what the fuck. [Speaker 2] (1:33:06 - 1:33:27) So cozy, listen, final words, man, as the emperor, as the leader, as that fiery Greek healer that you are, what do you got to say? What do you got to say, man? Oh, what can people do? Like, like, like obviously we're talking a lot of shit right now. And, but what, what, what are the, what's the solution, man? What's the solution. [Speaker 1] (1:33:27 - 1:35:44) Stay as healthy as possible because we still got a long way to go. And if you're not healthy, mentally, physically, spiritually, you're not going to make it. That's the bottom line. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. of having mad children and the future of humanity? This is what's at stake here. And we're at a freaking cross road, where we hit a fork in the road. Do we want to allow these people to force things into our body for the rest of our lives give her booster shots and all this stuff and give them the authority to keep masking us and locking us down and controlling our Cash flow and and you know our medical history and there's a lot at stake here people Okay, there's a lot of stake and it's not worth it It's not worth giving into these tyrants if we stood our ground if we stood our ground they will be destroyed in a second Okay, so you guys have to just stand strong and say no in the meantime plan B if you're in a city like, New York You're in a city in California, Boston, Chicago or Australia Start thinking about a plan B of where you can escape to and where you can survive long term Right that should be in the background because obviously we're people like us are not gonna be safe in cities like this, right? It's going down the wrong path, but if we can escape for a few years till all this chaos, you know figures itself out We would be more likely to survive, you know and out of harm's way because I have a feeling New York They're gonna put a border around it soon. I think they're gonna not allow unvaccinated people into it That's where I see this is going and that terrifies me So I don't want to be stuck here when all that shit goes down. So I should have left already but you know Things happen and you know financially I'm not there So my goal is to save money and then get the F out, you know Thank you, brother Absolute honor to share this dialogue with you man. [Speaker 3] (1:35:44 - 1:36:02) You are a true warrior in every essence of the world You have the word you have the spirit which is required for most people to embody for us to move through this man We all need to become activated in this kind of way dude and honestly bros much much appreciation man for the way you've shown up I thank you You know and thank you guys for having me man. [Speaker 1] (1:36:02 - 1:36:23) I really appreciate this talk is awesome speaking with you guys I want to check out more of your work. Of course now you got me interested and Just you know, thank you for sharing, you know, you know having me use this platform We've had some good guests man, I think you appreciate some people you might even know but I For audience man, where can they find you? [Speaker 2] (1:36:23 - 1:36:26) Like what do you got going on? Where can they find you? How can they support you? Etc. [Speaker 1] (1:36:27 - 1:37:07) Okay. So it's my main where I do. My main work is Instagram.com slash coz is koz is Wellness, that's my main page. It's probably gonna get deleted soon So I have links to my website So if you go to koz is wellness calm, but you'll see it all there and I'll have links to everything my telegram Please join my telegram because that's where I'm gonna be moving everything to You know and you'll get all these I have a website there cause was I have the deaths All the deaths from the kovat shot. I try to post them as regularly as I can when I find them in the media You know, I post interesting stuff there. So It's a good place to go for resources Cool [Speaker 2] (1:37:08 - 1:37:15) We'll have everything listed in our show notes to you know that all your links awesome man to our patrons and the members [Speaker 3] (1:37:15 - 1:37:42) Thank you for listening If you enjoyed this Please let your friends know about us spreading the word is the fastest way that we can get this message out there and for us to Continue to do what we do and to have these incredible guests and have these conversations which are much needed at this time Everyone take care Smoking mirrors, I'm seeing through the illusion waking up in the time. They think you're in a delusion Somebody set the alarms cuz they be too busy snoozing. I'm in a DeLorean
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